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Posted by 4everX on Jul-14-2009 20:51:

CDJshop R.I.P.

http://cdjshop.com/

omg i can't belive that, and now ? no more CDs ?

Discuss

Posted by djsaekone on Jul-14-2009 21:06:

wow...i used to buy cds from them every once in a while.

That sux!

Posted by Magnus on Jul-15-2009 00:45:

Used to buy from them as well. Virgin recently closed its last record store as well. How times have changed.

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-15-2009 13:23:

Doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised more shops have not closed down. Nobody buys music anymore. If bandwith wasn't as cheap as dirt we'd have single digit audio distributors.

Posted by sixofour.604 on Jul-15-2009 15:23:

Heh, man, last time I bought music was in iirc 1998. Not coincidently, right when I first got internet.

Posted by 4everX on Jul-15-2009 18:13:

but this store sells CDs for Dj not only mp3s...

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-16-2009 01:07:

Right, which makes it even more difficult. They have to physically ship something making their overhead and prices higher. If people are already not buying mp3's, why would they spend even more to have them on a CD? Anybody smart enough to use mp3's is smart enough to burn a CD and calculate basic mathematics.

Posted by 4everX on Jul-16-2009 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Right, which makes it even more difficult. They have to physically ship something making their overhead and prices higher. If people are already not buying mp3's, why would they spend even more to have them on a CD? Anybody smart enough to use mp3's is smart enough to burn a CD and calculate basic mathematics.

yes man you are all right

but this is legal ? i don't know...

i think that in my country i'cant do

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-16-2009 12:05:

Blank CDs

MP3 Distributor

Free Program to burn Audio CDs

Posted by 4everX on Jul-16-2009 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Blank CDs

MP3 Distributor

Free Program to burn Audio CDs

ok...ok...
but, this is legal ???

you can play this CD in any club without copyright problem ?

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-16-2009 13:42:

Yep

Posted by 4everX on Jul-16-2009 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Yep

wow

because in Italy i can't do that ! i have to pay something for copyright

Posted by Cloud N9ne on Jul-16-2009 20:11:

Purchasing the mp3 gives you the license to play it out in public. Burn it to a cd and play in your car, play at the club...no reason that isn't legal.

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-16-2009 20:38:

Unless Italy has some very very very strange laws I think you are mistaken. As long as you are not selling the mp3s/CDs for financial gain then you can do whatever you want with them. Some will in the finest of print (usually distributors) that it can't be played for public performance. Pretty much every vinyl ever pressed had that on it too. Don't ask me why they wasted the ink or the time. Have never heard of a single lawsuit arising from this.

Also, I'm pretty sure that you are mistaken when you say "illegal" - Illegal is a criminal term - Again I don't know anything about Italian law, but anything that arises from you playing mp3s on a burnt CD in a club is going to be a civil suit, not a criminal suit.

But we're getting way too deep here. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. There is no money left in music anymore (and even if there was you would still be fine) for anybody to care. You could probably publish a CD in the USA if you took a bunch of tracks from smaller labels who are not in the USA. They wouldn't be able to do jack shit. They COULD spend 5 figures to come try and sue you, but we all know that won't happen. At worst they'll bad mouth you to belief and try to get the distributorship license revoked of the label who put it out.

I've always wanted to test this theory but I don't have a label I can risk having ruined, yet

Finally, you CAN send out CDs for donations. I knew some artists back in the day when mp3s first hit the shelves that were "accepting donations" for their latest mix efforts. Their websites wouldn't say it (obviously) but you wouldn't get their newest mix CD unless you donated at least $6

Posted by 4everX on Jul-16-2009 21:47:

man i'm not mistaken, i'm sure of that is not law, is an association called SIAE ! if i buy a digital song i'cant reproduce it in a club without paying somethig to the SIAE;

yea i know it is crazy but this is Italy the ''Banana country''

check it in google; to produce a song with an italian Label i have to pay 200 eur per year to this association

Posted by Stephen Wiley on Jul-16-2009 22:17:

Well that is crazy. Give me your email and I will give you tracks (in mp3 format) from my label that you can use for public performance. There is no way Italy can force you to pay a fee for using the mp3 codec process, and if they do I'll send it in WAV format, or AIFF format, or MP4 format, or whatever. That is ridiculous.

Posted by 4everX on Jul-17-2009 12:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Well that is crazy. Give me your email and I will give you tracks (in mp3 format) from my label that you can use for public performance. There is no way Italy can force you to pay a fee for using the mp3 codec process, and if they do I'll send it in WAV format, or AIFF format, or MP4 format, or whatever. That is ridiculous.

yes that's ridiculous ! for example: if i want to play your tracks in a Club, i have to pay 5 eur per song to the SIAE (this is only an exmple i'dont know how much)
This money at the end of the year go to your label, but we don't know how much is it..
it is somethig like a ''legal mafia'' ! there is no way !

even if i buy a CD, DVD, USB PEN or an HD i have to pay about +20% more because SIAE want it !