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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jul-17-2009 22:29:

the most definitive track of a genre..?

ive been pretty much out of the loop for a few years. i mainly listen to hardcore/gabba and stuff. but the type of stuff that the old tranceheads listen to now, this housey stuff, im just not feeling one bit, i checked one of bas's mixes from dj promotion once just to see what its all about, and no offence bas, but the first half of the set was dull and boring as hell to me, but i see comments in there like 'wow belter of a mix'and 'yeah, nice mix, this got me dancing' etc etc etc.

so basically i was just wondering, what are some good examples of some floor fillers of this weird slow dull house stuff?, and how do you determine what is an astounding track with music like this?.

this isnt a moaning thread, or a name calling thread.. im just havin a hard time understanding how a person can listen to a track of say 120 BPM with a little ambience and the odd plinky plonky noise, and say woh that was awesome.

same with trance also.. around 2003 everything got ultrra gay and floaty, very very quickly, so i quickly stopped listing to it, so now a days i dont know what 'good' trance is like.




SO: in this thread, list your preferred genre of choice, and post a link to a track that epitomises the pure immenseness and awesomeness of the style that you listen to. a track that without question to you, is the best example of your preferred genre as of right now

[ill follow suit shortly, so as not to get flamed for liking hardcore ]


Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2009 22:32:

If you like hardcore and gabber you're probably going to find even the biggest bangers in house/tech boring and sleepy

Some people just like slower music.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jul-17-2009 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
If you like hardcore and gabber you're probably going to find even the biggest bangers in house/tech boring and sleepy

Some people just like slower music.


ah yeah ofcourse. but i have a very diverse taste in music, i dont listen to any really slow stuff tho, but im just inerested into why a person decides they like some 120 BPM stuff.. and what elements of a track makes them love the style

like for me..

...this sounds good, i dont know why, i guess i like the energy through noise, and darkness. i know its fast noises and hard stabs, but this excites me, and i find myself thinking its hard to believe that this is exciting to people.. but i am one of those people. listening to this sort of music live at a club in a dark dirty room is just mind blowing


Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2009 22:46:

I don't have an explanation even though I wonder about this all the time. And even within a genre and style, why do certain tracks and sounds seem more pleasing to one person than another and vice versa.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jul-17-2009 22:48:

yeah its wierd.. like the sorta music i listen to [see above] ive listened to this type of music [amongst other hard musics] since i was about 13 which is 14 years ago. and i was just doing a set earlier, then i quickly went for a piss, and i was banging my head while i was having a piss, then i realised that this music is very anti social, and hardly anyone likes it, but i fucking love it... but why?


Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2009 22:54:

To me thats probably some of the most offensive and annoying music around.


Posted by sljiva on Jul-17-2009 23:18:

Different people like different music, that's just the way it is, and it's best to accept that fact and not to think too much about it. There's just too much music out there, and one simply cannot like everything. If you like hardcore, you don't have to like deep house, that's perfectly fine and there's nothing wrong with you.


Posted by wotyzoid on Jul-17-2009 23:23:

The epitome of 'tech house'


Posted by BOBFOB on Jul-17-2009 23:30:

French House Style Maybe? This shit is gold:



I know you're coming from a Gabber background check this shit if you don't know already:


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jul-17-2009 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
The epitome of 'tech house'



yeah im feelin that man.. not bad at all

also that mirwais track, i didnt realise that was that track.. nice stuff, and also a tr�s fucked up video lol.. also liky likey. gotta love the french stuff tho.. its so out there house-wise. for me i love all the filtery goodness.. i even went through a phase of mixing french house, it didnt last long tho lol


and mescalinium united, ofcourse i know that track.. one of the first hardcore flavours i heard way back when. own it on 12", love it


Posted by Zombie0915 on Jul-17-2009 23:57:

no matter which track I put, im gonna be wrong, so fuck it:

the kind I like:


holy shit the guy is a ginger, my world is imploding, damn you, youtube!

real definition:


oh, and umm, why I like them
The melodies, and the tension release structure, and the synth play, the repetition. Other genres demonstrate similar traits, I also like those other things, but this is probably my favorite, this trance.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jul-18-2009 00:47:

I never had one particular style, but these tunes embody genres I love to a tee as far as I'm concerned:








Posted by distant on Jul-18-2009 04:32:

^all excellent trax










Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-18-2009 05:34:

Acid techno: Emmanuel Top-Turkish bazaar


Classic Trance:




Goa Trance:





Psychedelic trance:



Darkpsy:





Psy tekk:



Depressive Black metal aka Ambient black metal:



Symphonic Black metal:



Newer tr00 kvlt:





Gothic Metal:



Funeral Doom metal:





Post Punk:



EBM:



Drone Doom:



Ambient:




Posted by TranceOwnsLol on Jul-18-2009 05:43:

Gay Disco House


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-18-2009 14:01:

Check some old Ramirez tracks like the one below. They made tracks in many genres. You can also find them at Thunderdome and Gabber cd's. Even hardcore started a lot slower in the 90's.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ramirez

I always loved the hypnotic atmosphere combined with a strong bass.

Techno


Posted by Ian on Jul-18-2009 14:15:

Modern Trance imo isn't the kind of crap you hear on armin which is glorified popdance and stuff but stuff along these lines





Even 11 - Oblivion

and Wizzy Noise - Sea Song




Now I know a lot of people will say 'thats psytrance' but I don't really think it is. Psy & goa are both trippy sounds to me and I don't find these kind of tracks do that but moreso they entrance me. A mixture of repetition plus warm pads, deep basslines and melodies which at times remind me of when trance really was that, back in the mid 90s and really could put you into that state of mind. For further proof, Art of Trance's retrospective is out now, listen to stuff on there and then tell me how what the 'big' dutch/german/british djs play now is really trance per se.


Posted by euphoria on Jul-18-2009 14:21:

For me the overall ambiance of the track gets me interested. If it has a groove I can vibe to, then I like it. Then the general flow of the track is what keeps me interested. It can't be too repetative or it looses me.


Posted by Yoshi on Jul-18-2009 21:46:

when trance was trance:



how can todays generic uplifting producers top this atmosphere in the break...you are right, they can't!


Posted by nefardec on Jul-18-2009 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
The epitome of 'tech house'


not really, man.

this stuff changes with time too.


this is going to be a difficult thread lol


Posted by wotyzoid on Jul-18-2009 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
not really, man.

this stuff changes with time too.


this is going to be a difficult thread lol


IMHO. And elaborate, please.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Jul-18-2009 23:43:

music clips embedded in threads

on the 8th day god created youtube, after the epic fail of audiogalaxy links


Posted by woscar on Jul-19-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
IMHO. And elaborate, please.


Well, I agree with Adam. Tech House has changed a lot since 'Who's Afraid of Detroit?' was released. The (good) Tech House that's coming out these days is not like that at all. It now balances the Techno and the House much better, and has more "groove".


Posted by Stasis on Jul-19-2009 19:54:

Where's Ishkur??


Posted by Zombie0915 on Jul-20-2009 12:02:

he is like yogg sothoth, or any other of the great old ones, mentioning his name has a slight chance of summoning him, and if you do actually summon him, you usually regret it

now quickly before he shows up, chant his name backwards to cancel it out


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