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Manuel Göttsching E2-E4

What a great release. I decided to just buy the bootleg since the original copies are pretty expensive...got it for 5 bucks and it sounds amazing. Future music

http://www.discogs.com/Eddy-Grant-M.../release/203865

epic track.

You have to listen to the whole thing, all 60 minutes of it to truly appreciate it. It's a definite masterpiece, one of those albums that were influental not only to ambient or new age, but to the whole electronic music spectrum.

Carl Craig made a pretty good techno remake of it:



and Basic Channel made even better remix of that remake in their own style:



Sueńo Latino also did a remake in 1989, and although their first version is awesome, even more awesome is Derrick May's remix from 1992:

someone re-released it?

i really love e2-e4, it is one of those timeless pieces of music i will listen to my whole life. this piece of music is like a pebble in the water that has caused of many, many ripples


also check out another gottsching work called 'sunrain' under his alias, ashra, that whole EP really. 'new age of earth'

i am a real sucker for this electronic experimental krautrock stuff, but not enough versed in it, so if anyone has more suggestions or leads, I would be interested to hear them.

I've got stuff by Popol Vuh, Can, Neu, Tangerine Dream, etc...

just bought the other copy on discogs

cant wait to play this outdoors on thursday for an art installation/cocktail party

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Originally posted by nefardec just bought the other copy on discogs cant wait to play this outdoors on thursday for an art installation/cocktail party

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The bootleg? For a bootleg its mastered very well and its on a nice medium thickness plate. I think you'll be happy with it

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Originally posted by Guest The bootleg? For a bootleg its mastered very well and its on a nice medium thickness plate. I think you'll be happy with it

yep nice... i'm sure i will be.

slivja...how is that basic channel even warrant the title "e2e4 remake"...yes its a dope track but it doesnt even sound like E2 in any sense

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Originally posted by Guest slivja...how is that basic channel even warrant the title "e2e4 remake"...yes its a dope track but it doesnt even sound like E2 in any sense

it's a remix of carl craig's remake

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Originally posted by Guest slivja...how is that basic channel even warrant the title "e2e4 remake"...yes its a dope track but it doesnt even sound like E2 in any sense

Well, Mark Antoohny, you probably know that remixes don't have to be similar to originals, and sometimes they are so different that you can't even tell what track they originated from. Basic Channel is one of those acts that'll take some elements of the original track and twist them beyond recognizability (reshape them). They also did this with another Carl Craig track, The Climax, which sounds like funky disco house track in its original form, and completely different, deep, cold, spacey and austere in reshaped form.

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Originally posted by sljiva Well, Mark Antoohny, you probably know that remixes don't have to be similar to originals, and sometimes they are so different that you can't even tell what track they originated from. Basic Channel is one of those acts that'll take some elements of the original track and twist them beyond recognizability (reshape them). They also did this with another Carl Craig track, The Climax, which sounds like funky disco house track in its original form, and completely different, deep, cold, spacey and austere in reshaped form.

Ehh to me it appears that the artist was too lazy or selfish to incorporate any of the original elements when they were invited to do the remix, and instead just pulled something out of their unreleased bin and said "here, take this one"

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Originally posted by Guest Ehh to me it appears that the artist was too lazy or selfish to incorporate any of the original elements when they were invited to do the remix, and instead just pulled something out of their unreleased bin and said "here, take this one"

probably not the case, here, considering they are all friends with carl craig and had probably listened to e2-e4 for years and years and imagined doing this remix, not to mention the fact that their technique comes straight from the raw, spaced-out dub techniques of the 60s and 70s

also, when confronted with a masterpiece like e2-e4, you want to keep your distance. i think mvo actually talks about this in some interview about his 'remix' of ravel and mussorgsky with....carl craig.

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Originally posted by nefardec probably not the case, here, considering they are all friends with carl craig and had probably listened to e2-e4 for years and years and imagined doing this remix, not to mention the fact that their technique comes straight from the raw, spaced-out dub techniques of the 60s and 70s also, when confronted with a masterpiece like e2-e4, you want to keep your distance. i think mvo actually talks about this in some interview about his 'remix' of ravel and mussorgsky with....carl craig.

Yea I see what you mean about keeping distance on a classic. But other dub artists, echospace/rod modell comes to mind...tend to do this frequently on their remix projects

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Originally posted by Guest Ehh to me it appears that the artist was too lazy or selfish to incorporate any of the original elements when they were invited to do the remix, and instead just pulled something out of their unreleased bin and said "here, take this one"

I wouldn't say that. Doing another remix where that main melody hook plays the most important role would be quite pointless, besides BC had their own sound (which was quite unique at that time) and I can't see why would they departure from it. If you pay close attention you'll recognize couple of bits from original (Craig's version), although highly altered. But that's your dub technique right there - taking parts of original recording and using mixing board remixing them into something completely different. But for me the most important thing is that it sounds good, not where it came from.

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Originally posted by sljiva But for me the most important thing is that it sounds good, not where it came from.

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