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Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-22-2009 01:23:

could i get some advice on this?

i know it's the wrong forum, but nobody ever checks the music production promotion forum, or at least, no one who can really pick apart my mix and give me educated, experienced responses

imogen heap - headlock (natek remix). right click, "save as"

or

kotuha link

what would you do to polish this track?

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-23-2009 16:18:

I like it. The percs and bass are creating a nice groove and the voice fit well in the mix. The stab is great The break sounds good too, nice buildup and it all kicks in smooth.

Thats pretty much what I have to say. I Like it very much.

Thats about the imogen heap remix btw

Posted by Waza on Jul-23-2009 16:45:

yeah i like the imogen track nice percs as dreamtea said. you could maybe add a little motif in there somewhere as it keeps you wanting more. but nice track.

Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-24-2009 22:01:

cheers fellas, i appreciate the input and the time you took out to check it out

@waza i agree, it's missing something memorable, perhaps a hook or something, to keep the track interesting. back to the drawing board i suppose.

Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jul-24-2009 22:16:

pretty colorful tune you have there

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-25-2009 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue

@waza i agree, it's missing something memorable, perhaps a hook or something, to keep the track interesting. back to the drawing board i suppose.

I really dont think this needs more work. No need to over do it. Its a great track and it makes me wanne dance. Take some days off and get some more oppinions before ripping it apart

Posted by owien on Jul-25-2009 02:44:

no i agree with the post above the tune works well

Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-25-2009 05:03:

thanks so much for your compliments and advice guys. not to sound like a prick, but i really needed some sort of affirmation that i was doing the right thing from completely unbiased individuals; it motivates me to continue and improve my work.

do you think it's good enough to send out? or still not quite professional sounding? again any constructive criticism is welcome, and i seriously appreciate the time you fellas have taken to check it out

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-26-2009 00:28:

I dont see any problem with sending it out. If you just send it to the right labels someone will probably take it.

Posted by Evolve140 on Jul-27-2009 14:49:

Kick could have a tiny bit more punch and more low end, more presence. I do not suggest taking out the kick in the beginning because that low end perc is really dope. When the vocals come in the energy in the track disappears. I think the stab with the delay on it could use some EQ.

I would say the overall groove and production is well done and I consider it cleanly put together. However the arrangement is quite poor in my opinion. So I do not think it is ready to send out by any means. The energy build up after the intro isn't very good. After my head gets used to the percussion and groove, I grow somewhat complacent with the song. Work on building up tension, because without a solid arrangement you do not have a good piece of music.

Overall the mixdown and percs are really danceable. If done properly (energy control, tension, etc) you could have a very nice minimal version of this song. If not done minimally, in this present state, the track would probably need some more elements.

So yeah, just my humble opinion. Good luck, sounds good.

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-27-2009 16:53:

I agree with the EQ point, I dont have monitors btw so cant say much about that. But please, this song doesnt need more stuff in it. I think it is great and I find it hard to belive that I am the only one.
Just work on the mix a bit to make it as clean as possible .

I Dont say my way is the only way but just want to let you know you got at least one fan of it. Then you can do whatever you want

keep it up

Posted by Evolve140 on Jul-27-2009 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Dreamtea
I agree with the EQ point, I dont have monitors btw so cant say much about that. But please, this song doesnt need more stuff in it. I think it is great and I find it hard to belive that I am the only one.
Just work on the mix a bit to make it as clean as possible .

I Dont say my way is the only way but just want to let you know you got at least one fan of it. Then you can do whatever you want

keep it up
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Well he will have to tighten up the arrangement quite a bit.

Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-27-2009 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Kick could have a tiny bit more punch and more low end, more presence. I do not suggest taking out the kick in the beginning because that low end perc is really dope. When the vocals come in the energy in the track disappears. I think the stab with the delay on it could use some EQ.

I would say the overall groove and production is well done and I consider it cleanly put together. However the arrangement is quite poor in my opinion. So I do not think it is ready to send out by any means. The energy build up after the intro isn't very good. After my head gets used to the percussion and groove, I grow somewhat complacent with the song. Work on building up tension, because without a solid arrangement you do not have a good piece of music.

Overall the mixdown and percs are really danceable. If done properly (energy control, tension, etc) you could have a very nice minimal version of this song. If not done minimally, in this present state, the track would probably need some more elements.

So yeah, just my humble opinion. Good luck, sounds good.

thanks for the criticism, i will definitely experiment with what you said a bit. i always felt that it needed more work with the dynamics to give it a bit more emotion in certain places. i agree the overall feel "plateaus" and doesnt really go anywhere after that.. but is that necessarily a bad thing?

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
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Well he will have to tighten up the arrangement quite a bit.

can you elaborate a bit more? what do you mean by "tighten up"

quote:
Originally posted by Dreamtea
I agree with the EQ point, I dont have monitors btw so cant say much about that. But please, this song doesnt need more stuff in it. I think it is great and I find it hard to belive that I am the only one.
Just work on the mix a bit to make it as clean as possible .

I Dont say my way is the only way but just want to let you know you got at least one fan of it. Then you can do whatever you want

keep it up

so give it a bit more punch with the kick, and perhaps compress the vocals a bit? i was listening to it yesterday and thought the vocals were a bit too loud and muddied up the mix a bit, at least in the midrange area

Posted by Evolve140 on Jul-27-2009 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
thanks for the criticism, i will definitely experiment with what you said a bit. i always felt that it needed more work with the dynamics to give it a bit more emotion in certain places. i agree the overall feel "plateaus" and doesnt really go anywhere after that.. but is that necessarily a bad thing?

can you elaborate a bit more? what do you mean by "tighten up"

so give it a bit more punch with the kick, and perhaps compress the vocals a bit? i was listening to it yesterday and thought the vocals were a bit too loud and muddied up the mix a bit, at least in the midrange area

The vocals sound good, try lowering them. However, do what you can. Just listen to some other remixes of Heap and do an A&B, this will really help. Tightening up the mix means making many, many edits that although the track is very minimal, edits and automation to give energy and presence to your song is extremely relevant. You have to control the energy, sustainence and tension of that groove you made.

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-27-2009 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i agree the overall feel "plateaus" and doesnt really go anywhere after that.. but is that necessarily a bad thing?

No, I dont think so, its a matter of preference and maybe u and I like it that way and evolve dosnt. But i think his right about the rest, hes probably better equipped than I am and hes mixing are probably better developed too.

Be careful though and keep a copy of this mix

Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-27-2009 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Dreamtea
No, I dont think so, its a matter of preference and maybe u and I like it that way and evolve dosnt. But i think his right about the rest, hes probably better equipped than I am and hes mixing are probably better developed too.

Be careful though and keep a copy of this mix

yeah, i mean i don't feel that every track should have an epicly pronounced buildup or breakdown. i'm definitely trying to shy away from a trance or epic diva house-type sound.

i really appreciate your support- i'm gonna work on it some more and post up an update sometime tonight

Posted by Fuxzz on Jul-27-2009 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
yeah, i mean i don't feel that every track should have an epicly pronounced buildup or breakdown. i'm definitely trying to shy away from a trance or epic diva house-type sound.

Exactly, thats what I like about it.

quote:
i really appreciate your support- i'm gonna work on it some more and post up an update sometime tonight

Just being honest, do that and let me know when your ready

Good luck