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Shelf life of a DJ?

We all know that every DJ has a certain shelf life after the expiry of which he is no longer good.. like Paul Oakenfold and Sasha in past.. they both are pretty much dead now. Even producers like Chicane peaked and is pretty bad now..

But I think with internet radios, these shelf lives have increased.. giving them more exposure for a longer period of time.. look at AvB, he has been DJing since Tiesto peaked and still gunning for new records everyday.. how long you think ASOT will continue with its current glory....? 500 Episodes?

For as long as AvB can be bothered.

I should imagine that a lot of the reason that DJs loose their appeal is that they can't be arsed anymore.

Only the true of heart shall prosper.

The real question is, when a dj falls off so to speak, what happens inside their mind?

Every dj I know that's fizzled out fizzled because they started playing really bad music. Are they doing this on purpose? Or over time do they lose touch with what actually sounds good?

people tend to always be looking for the new thing.

some djs become the flavour of the month, and then you hear less about them. It does not mean they stopped working, or that they are not successful, only that the majority of people have started to "idolize" someone new.

less and less people are putting djs on a pedestal these days, which is a very good thing. Only certain djs deserve to be acknowledged as being among the best due to skill. Production is where the longevity, even if the same thing can sometimes apply to them as i mentionned for djs.

I'll notice sometimes that a producer will hit it big for a year and then fall off of the map. I notice even more some guys who never become the big thing, but keep putting out quality releases for years and years, flying just enough under the radar to only be appreciated by those who search them out because they like the stuff, not because everyone else is listening to them.

i'd say there is more than one reason inc:

1. exposure to the masses = wrong crowd at parties = more lighter track selection to accomodate the masses.

2. see 1 but for productions

3. the dj got big in trance/prog but as that scene is not "hot" they've jumped onto a different bandwagon to keep a high profile...

4. see 3 but by personal choice cos they got bored in the genre that made them famous



The good thing about music scene is that no matter what your taste, you can pretty much find something for you. If not, invent a genre

frankie knuckles first dj gig was bk in 1971
and the guy is still as big as he was bk then

like omg

The Dj who dosent let anyone on here influence them

yoji is the shittiest dj on earth.

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Originally posted by the_voice frankie knuckles first dj gig was bk in 1971 and the guy is still as big as he was bk then like omg

I have no idea why, but I'd like to go for a beer with you - then disappear off to Air or whatever the fuck it's called these days.

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Originally posted by Guest The real question is, when a dj falls off so to speak, what happens inside their mind? Every dj I know that's fizzled out fizzled because they started playing really bad music. Are they doing this on purpose? Or over time do they lose touch with what actually sounds good?

I've wondered about this and came to the conclusion that if you keep doing the same stuff people get bored. PvD - For An Angel, Tiesto - Traffic anyone? Or try something new and innovative and people slam you for going too far.

Innovators have made the biggest impression on me and it is hard to stay fresh and but keep a little of what made you popular in the first place.

I think.

once a dj stays in touch with the music, they can remain cutting edge. there are so many DJs who demonstrate this...

sasha, digweed, francois k, kerri chandler, sven vath etc...

Ferry Corsten is also a great example of someone who has been able to "stay in touch with the music". While he had a noticeable lapse a few years ago he's bounced back and always been there. Even the jaded hordes of now trance haters tend to have a lot of respect for him. Why?
Seems to be the fact that he DJs very well, consistently produces quality tracks that aren't the same old crap, and seems very down to earth.

Hence why I'd happily put him in as my #1 DJ

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Originally posted by Fledz Ferry Corsten is also a great example of someone who has been able to "stay in touch with the music". While he had a noticeable lapse a few years ago he's bounced back and always been there. Even the jaded hordes of now trance haters tend to have a lot of respect for him. Why? Seems to be the fact that he DJs very well, consistently produces quality tracks that aren't the same old crap, and seems very down to earth. Hence why I'd happily put him in as my #1 DJ

i mean i don't even follow trance but i can say ferry corsten has done more for that genre than anyone. period. /end /thread... and any other nerdy forum speak thread ending acronyms.

i've yet to come across anyone with a hatred for ferry, in the sense that people hate tiesto/armin/van dyk/guetta etc.

is ferry corsten the dance music messiah?

??

I don't like anything he has done, under his own name. I'm a big fan of stuff he's done under other names and in groups, like Gouryella.

Very strange.

It's really hard to be creative, do what made you popular, and stay fresh at the same time. Too many people get lazy, I think.

holy shit this is the first thread ive seen in the MD that brought up a big trance name and didnt turn into a trance-bashing unicorn based thread-jack. either ferry corsten is the trance messiah, or it's just an unusually good day on TA.

Only thing Ferry has done in all his career is 'Galaxia' which again I suppose is a rip from past.. all his other tracks like Fire are just boring and uniinovative.. people dont bash him because he is simply too small and irrelevant.. like bashing someone tiny like him is a waste of evrryone's time.

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Originally posted by lenazi yoji is the shittiest dj on earth.

OMG How dare you! , leave off him , he is speshul.

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Originally posted by Fledz Ferry Corsten is also a great example of someone who has been able to "stay in touch with the music". While he had a noticeable lapse a few years ago he's bounced back and always been there. Even the jaded hordes of now trance haters tend to have a lot of respect for him. Why? Seems to be the fact that he DJs very well, consistently produces quality tracks that aren't the same old crap, and seems very down to earth. Hence why I'd happily put him in as my #1 DJ

Out of all the trance djs/producers I would say he remains the most consistent.

i am not a trance fan at all, but i have to agree with ferry.

you don't see him trying to sell sneakers and iphone apps...yet he still gets attention.

Ferry sets circa 2000ish used to be my jam.

Ferry was always my favorite when I listened to Trance.

And if 'Galaxia' was the only good thing Ferry Corsten did according to you, why do you have the cover of LEF on your sig?

Because Kinezi has Downs?

for collaborations, i actually like vimana the most... i'm pretty sure i'll be alone on this but dreamtime & we came have always been enjoyable over the years. i guess it's because it was the stuff i listened to when i first got into dance music... so it just stuck with me, like tranceport & stuff by solarstone.

anyhoo, i remember when twice in a blue moon was just released... kids were playing radio crash on their phones at my college campus, hah. surprised the shit out of me! one time i got into a conversation with one about DJing (he was one) & he ended up saying, "oh no, i'm not as perfect as tiesto."

i walked away.

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Originally posted by woscar Ferry was always my favorite when I listened to Trance. And if 'Galaxia' was the only good thing Ferry Corsten did according to you, why do you have the cover of LEF on your sig?

I have the cover of LEF on my signature because I like the cover..

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