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Posted by floyd741 on Jul-25-2009 20:06:

need help with a bass line

I've never been good at making bass lines, I usually stick to offbeat in a trance song. The thing is I'm working on something right now that would really benefit from a funky/deep bass line. That's why I would like some help with doing this because after a few attempts I've come to the realization that I suck

Here's the sample of what I'm doing: SAMPLE, still pretty empty since I just started about 20 minutes ago

Chords are: Cmaj7, Em7, Dm7, Fmaj7

All help is appreciated.


Posted by Evolve140 on Jul-27-2009 14:42:

Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!


Posted by JmanNZ on Jul-28-2009 09:27:

copy the baseline of another track that you like, thats what I do, makes you feel a little better and you learn while you do it. Your track is quite soft, I dont know how much diversity a baseline could get away with, but dont let me hold you back!


Posted by floyd741 on Jul-29-2009 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!


wtf? I asked for some help in making a bassline for this particular song, not for tips on how to begin producing music. Maybe telling me to learn about envelopes and oscillators would have helped some 7 months ago.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jul-29-2009 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!


I think he mean't he started the song 20 mins ago rather than producing


Posted by Evolve140 on Jul-31-2009 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
I think he mean't he started the song 20 mins ago rather than producing




PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".


Posted by meriter on Jul-31-2009 23:43:

Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
I've never been good at making bass lines, I usually stick to offbeat in a trance song. The thing is I'm working on something right now that would really benefit from a funky/deep bass line. That's why I would like some help with doing this because after a few attempts I've come to the realization that I suck

Here's the sample of what I'm doing: SAMPLE, still pretty empty since I just started about 20 minutes ago

Chords are: Cmaj7, Em7, Dm7, Fmaj7

All help is appreciated.


Find a bassline you like in another song and steal it.

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths


I can masturbate too!


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-01-2009 00:22:

Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".


the bassline is not bad but your bassdrum sounds weak, have anything on it?


quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Find a bassline you like in another song and steal it.



I can masturbate too!


lol


Posted by Evolve140 on Aug-01-2009 00:26:

Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
the bassline is not bad but your bassdrum sounds weak, have anything on it?




lol

not bad? let's hear some of yours


Posted by meriter on Aug-01-2009 00:28:

Re: Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
not bad? let's hear some of yours


I think he's about to climax...


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-01-2009 00:43:

Re: Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
not bad? let's hear some of yours


http://soundcloud.com/john-paullino/john-paullino

Yeah the lead is not that great, i just bought the komplete 5 and it came last night so yeah i'm still working on it


Posted by Nightshift on Aug-01-2009 08:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".


bassline is aight, nothing too crazy, as another person stated. but the bassdrum AND the bass both are pretty weak imo, for a house track it does not have the proper amount of bass that it should.

plus i think he trying more to focus on making a good bass pattern not on trying to make a bass. two completely differnet ballparks.

and before you challenge me on my "bass knowledge" as you did another user, u should have a listen to a electro house track i started but never finished.

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


now THAT's bass


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-01-2009 08:52:

i never really understood the magic of the funky bassline til i picked up a guitar.



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