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Which genre is the hardest to produce?

I've seen a couple of comments from producers that their genre is the hardest to produce. On TA I've seen someone say Techno is the hardest to produce, on a beatport interview someone was spouting DnB was the hardest. I find it hard to believe considering different genres offer different things, but I'm open to other opinions.

Orchestral

I guess everyone are gonna say their genre is the hardest.. I think every genre is hard
to produce quality music with the slightest bit of originality.

Hardcore al� Lord of Bass might be the hardest

gabber is lol

Its probably down to what ever you are currently listening to. If someone listen to trance for 15 years, trance is probably easyer for them to make than DNB, which they have only listened to for 6 months.

Also, what the guy above said, Orchestra...mostly because nothing you learn in EDM is of any use in Orchestral music.

I think just the opposite - to me, generally speaking, the genres that I have produced are easiest because I've gotten comfortable with them. Orchestral music is obviously more difficult because of the many complexities involved (including understanding how to score for numerous instruments that I can't even play proficiently myself).

But, in the electronica world, I find minimal styles very difficult and I'm always amazed by people who can take very little and turn it into something interesting. There's a very fine line between boring background noise and interesting simplicity there and I sure as hell don't know how to do the latter.

A lot of people joke about how simple rap/hip-hop is, but I've been asked to add some hip-hop flava to a song or two, yo, and it just don't be working fo shizzle. It always ends up sounding like exactly what it is - really bad hip-hop made by a big white dufus.

TRANCE IS HARDAST. I NEVAR NO WARE TWO PUT TEH DRUMBS TAHT MAEK THE BOOM SOUND. U NO, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOMM

To me, Rock was hard! But now that I figured out my sound, it's pretty much a piece of cake. Now I'm venturing into trance, and from what I've seen, it's pretty easy! lol

What's hard is ORIGINALITY!!!!

i think i said techno is the hardiest to make and i stand by that statement.
why? because its very clever in the way its made their is lots of programing involved and clever arrangement to.
making parts work in a track that's looping is tricky


i'm not saying other genres are any less difficult to make it's said that trace is the simplest to do witch is kinda true but these days people expect more from trance producers.

i would agree tech is probably hardest just because the layout and the quality of each individual sound is so important, because there's a lot less elements... in trance for example you just slap a million layers together in a horrible cliched formula and hey there you go, number one hits

tech seems to require a bit more focus on unusual sounds and unusual layouts etc... being general of course..

As some people have already said. Orchestral music. Just imagine having to mix and record 40 different people playing the different instruments, and not to mention that they are going to have to play it all together. The mic placement must surely be a pain in the ass.

I find it hard enough to mix (just mix mind you, not even recording it myself) a string section consisting of a viola, a cello, a contra bass and violin. I just can't imagine adding 15 horns and two clarinets to that.

Orchestra Music? I think some dont completely understand the role of a producer. I'd imagine Orchestra music is rather easy to produce, especially since its a tried and proven genre that relies more on the work of others than the producer, especially...The musicians, the composer who writes the actual music, the mixer, the sound engineer that manage mic placements etc. I'd imagine Orchestral production requires more managerial and logistics control skills than actual creative skills. And those managerial and logistics skills after some experience become easier over time. Creating something like Techno / House is harder to Produce, since you dont really follow the same process, and you write and play every part yourself, an Orchestral recording is the work of many people, a Producer is a smaller piece of the puzzle than a Producer is to Electronic Music. Not to mention, this part of the reason why Producers often have a few hits and a lot of misses, if it was easy to Produce, then it would be easy to continuously produce hits, but its not.

Techno / House / Rock / Hip Hop are harder than Orchestra Music to Produce.

Now if we are talking about composition, sure Orchestra is likely harder to compose than most other genres. But even Techno and House producers do quite a bit of composition if there sound is a musical one. And then most do their own sound design and engineering, their own mixing.

They are all equally hard to make.

PROPER (keyboard PROPER) Jazz.

I think its ridiculous to talk about orchestra as a genre in this context.

As far as traditionally EDM goes, I still believe good Trance is the hardest. It requires more complex layering, more harmony, etc.

With techno you can break chord and scale rules left and right and you usually don't have 3 different layers of music going at once like you do with Trance.

The same goes for House....I find house incredibility easy to make. It's almost a joke. Of course some house is tough, but there are hardly any rules. Just stay in key and create an upbeat, or deep, or whatever style, house track.

I feel the same way about Electro although some Electro is finally starting to incorporate melody (aka difficulty increaser) in it for a nice "Electrance" feel. Electro used to be just a wankers trying to see who could create the "coolest" sound - Thank god it's slowly getting away from that.

I'd rather the new indie disco stuff right up there with Trance. In my opinion, anytime you've got multiple layers running which is common in Trance and ni-disco, the difficulty increases dramatically. The engineering becomes MUCH more difficult and you have to worry about everything harmonizing perfectly. That's rarely the case with Techno, House, whatever.

Just my 2 cents

how about psy-trance?

Psy is not hard to make imho. Its mostly sounds/noise accompanied by a nice progression. Ive been on cosmic flower CDs a few times.

As for Orchestra, I say its harder because it tells a story, edm doesn't tell a story, edm is mostly music people listen to and dance to in order to get a quick thrill. Myself I don't dance, and I strive to make music that conveys a scene rather than a whole story. And its difficult enough.

yeah agreed with probably jazz and perhaps ambient (not this watered down trancey stuff but quadraphonic-picture-painting ambient)

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley PROPER (keyboard PROPER) Jazz. I think its ridiculous to talk about orchestra as a genre in this context. Just my 2 cents

It is really the simplest way to convey music from the start of the common practice period to today. Classical music is vague in that depending on who you are talking to , they will assume you mean something else.

As far as what is hard ? it is relative to the amount of people doing it and the level of competition. Orchestral music seems hard to most but the people doing it have been training since they were little kids. I doubt a producer doing EDM who has 20 years of experience is any less qualified at his/her craft than the classical guys.

So many kids in my undergrad could barely send email and had no idea what production is and even most of them were awful in terms of what is needed for a classical/orchestral composer. I know both and i'm incredibly handsome.

what I consider hard/difficult is when you blend electronica with rock (as in multiple non-electronic tracks). it requires two quite different mindsets mixwise, arrangementwise and productionwise combined to work (think along the lines of Nine Inch Nails). Anyway, I strive to be proficient in anything I do musically, so I'll get there

It's a pretty subjective question anyway.

Jazz, hiphop/rap, and DnB has always been the hardest for me to do. Trance is what I've been making since the start so now it's pretty easy for me once I get into the flow of things.

I believe trance is the EASIEST genre to produce unless you're an idiot for melodies/harmony.

the hardest in electronic music might be stuff like ed banger / turbo (labels).

shouldn't the question really be regarding succeeding in that genre ? Asking how hard it is to make something is stupid. Anyone can make any style of music. Will it be good in the eyes of the people that will make it possible to make a living ?

dumb thread.

Perhaps the genre in which you have less experience producing it

progressive trance/house beacuse:

- it needs to be groovy, driving and flowing with only few elements
- it needs to be kept interesting eventhough its monotone and repeatative
- it needs to be memorable without any big main themes or elements
- it needs to sound awesome without being overproduced
- it needs to sound dirty without distortion/clipping
- it needs to climax without adding anything special
- it needs to be epic without cheese
- it needs a dj-friendly intro/outro without being boring or typical
- it needs fucking awesome transitions and efex to avoid it getting boring
- structure needs to be perfect so it keeps the good parts long enough and not too long to avoid it being boring and to keep the deepness
- its the best genre ever

lol

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Originally posted by palm progressive trance/house beacuse: - blablablablablabla - more blalbalba - its the best genre ever lol

You're telling the truth.

House/Techno > Trance/Orchestral/Jazz

to Produce.

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