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Korg Radias

Been looking at this and I was wondering if anybody here has one or has used one and can offer some opinions on it. I never see it even mentioned which is somewhat surprising as it does seem to be quite nice.

I hate almost all Korg products as I think they are gimmicky and more along the lines of a toy than a true professional instrument, however; the radias does seem to show some "professionalism" even though it does have the traditional toys r' us Korg look.

Here is a demo of it for those who have not seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0JcfeqhSF8

A toy? Doesn't look like a toy to me...

Have you seen any drum machine ever made? They all look like those electric toys that have a picture, and when you press it it says the name.

I'd also like to see some opinions.

I think maybe the reason its not popular is that its not analogue and doesn't integrate like a virus. Despite the rubbish execution, the virus' integration seems to have pushed a lot of other manufacturers out of the market in this price range.

I'm a huge fan of Korg synths. I had a play around with a RADIAS at the music store and they're pretty awesome. Probably the best thing about Korg synths is their interfaces. They ALWAYS have the best interfaces. Their vocoders are pretty sweet too, definitely far better than Novation/Access/etc.

thecYrus on this forum has one I think, so you might like to PM him.

well, i have the "baby brother" (R3), and it sounds solid.

I'm pretty sure the extra features and knobby interface would make it even better.

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Originally posted by hasbone well, i have the "baby brother" (R3), and it sounds solid. I'm pretty sure the extra features and knobby interface would make it even better.

Is there any way you can be as detailed as possible here? Can you for instance compare it to other hardware? What does it excel at? Where is it weak? What sucks about it? (you get the idea)

thank you so much in advance

The Radias annoys me as I can't stick it in my boxed racks as its cables come out of the top of the machine, damn you Korg!

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Is there any way you can be as detailed as possible here? Can you for instance compare it to other hardware? What does it excel at? Where is it weak? What sucks about it? (you get the idea) thank you so much in advance

I have no other hardware to compare to, however - it sounds good. Great VA sounds, possibly a bit like sylenth. It does great bass. Polyphony is a bit limited however (8 voices) and gets limited more when you use unison. It's got some nice "extra" features (digital waveforms, great waveshaper), pretty decent effects. It's only got 2 oscillators, sometimes i wish for a third.

My biggest complaint however is the interface, because there's five knobs, one for scrolling through banks of parameters, and four for changing them. This makes programming a bit tedious, however it does come with editor software.

oh, and vocoder sounds great

8 Polyphony? Wow. I think of all my synths [asside from mono synths] have a max of 64 voices.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 8 Polyphony? Wow. I think of all my synths [asside from mono synths] have a max of 64 voices.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.


On topic, I don't own a Radias, but I've played with one, and owned/used various other pieces of Korg equipment dating as far back as the original Triton, and I can say without hesitation that Korg products are definitely not toys. As echosystm says, their UIs are top notch and their sound, while perhaps not as unique as a Virus TI or true analogue, is still totally competent.

I think that one of the main reasons people acquire hardware is that it feels more natural to experiment with the sound, and the Radias (and almost anything else made recently by Korg) really takes that to another level. Go and try one - I think you'll feel like you're using something that's 5 years ahead of its time.

Yes, the synths can support 64 of the 88 keys on my keyboard being pressed at once. Thats also translated to 64 "voices" I make pads that use 10 octaves pretty much every time I make a pad. Using 3-4 key chord progressions. Thats atleast 40 keys being pressed at once.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 I make pads that use 10 octaves pretty much every time I make a pad.

Why? Do you even know? Oh wait, of course. You think I just slap a fuck load of keys, and hit play. Right.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 Why? Do you even know? Oh wait, of course. You think I just slap a fuck load of keys, and hit play. Right.

1) It's completely retarded.
2) It makes it completely impossible to do any sort of meaningful EQing on the sound, or even mix it.
3) It's completely retarded.

Now stop derailing other people's threads, fuck! Nobody cares how many voices you use or how you make your pads!

You fail at the mechanics of sound. Do you even know the relationship of octaves and the audio spectrum? If you did, you wouldn't say stupid shit all the time. [PS, derailing? You attacked me, you should know better than that by now]

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 Yes, the synths can support 64 of the 88 keys on my keyboard being pressed at once. Thats also translated to 64 "voices" I make pads that use 10 octaves pretty much every time I make a pad. Using 3-4 key chord progressions. Thats atleast 40 keys being pressed at once.

10 octaves seems rather pointless to me. Doubling on two octaves makes it big, three octaves huge, but 10 octaves is ridiculous. The lowest and highest few octaves hardly have any (useful) sound in them, and such layering would probably ruin the sound.

Oh well, whatever works.

Anyway, 8 voices is not a lot yes, but most people don't need more than that for single parts.

Well, I find that there is a difference between 3 and 10 or 8. Its subtle, but its there. Espseially if you put a reverb, and mute the carrier and just have the wet 100%. You get a nice [imho] wash of sound.

As for 8 polyphony. If you put a delay on it. It is greatly reduced. And it seems that there is no excuse for not having 32 or 64 voices. As I understand it, this is a softsynth in a box. So it doesn't seem like it would have been that hard to add more. Sometimes when I use unison, I have 9 voices. All slightly detuned.

calm down folks. the radias has 24......not 8 - the other poster was talking about his m3 model, which is the little brother of the radias

Ah... see I couldn't pay that much for 24 voices. how many does the Blofeld have again? Isn't it like 64? Maybe thats why no one bothers with the radias.

LOLOLOL 10 octaves. That's the funniest thing I have ever heard. Please post a sample! Curious how it sounds.

Well, I won't post the 10 octaves, but I'll post some sounds from my Radias once it arrives. (If I can figure out how to use it!)

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 You fail at the mechanics of sound. Do you even know the relationship of octaves and the audio spectrum? If you did, you wouldn't say stupid shit all the time. [PS, derailing? You attacked me, you should know better than that by now]

Uh, yeah, I'm an engineer you moron, every octave represents a doubling of the frequency. Which means if you start at A220, which is about as low as you can go before going into sub-bass ranges, you'll have fundamentals all the way up to 112 kHz. That's several octaves above canine hearing range. If your synth even lets you do that, all you're doing is creating aliasing distortion.

Even if you meant, say, 7 octaves, which would actually be within the range of human hearing, it's still a ridiculously bad idea to have one sound (and a pad - a background element no less!) spanning the entire spectrum.

Nice appeal to authority. Really, do you argue just to argue? Are you so uptight that you look into a book and it says "X is not possiable/redundant" and you take it as is, and don't actually go mess around with it? You sound like a piano teacher who always whines about how you have to do it "properly" when the shit works in many ways.

Or better yet, why don't you post some music that's unique and of value in some way? You always talk about this and that and how things should be, but you have yet to even post a shred of sound. All you do is paraphrase what you read in some book.

Uh oh, I render mp3s in 450kbit, even though no one can tell the difference passed 320kbit...you need to penalize me diginut!

you two are like Freud and Carl Jung - given your both intelligent people i'm sure you both understand. Both presented equally valid theories of their times - yet both chose to discredit each other from their wisdom proclaiming one to absolute over the other (although, early on they were best of friends - this is prob not the case here). However, this is not my point, the point is Freud consistently gave Jung a hard time about his theory and vice versa to some extent, and further, he did it in such a manner to an end, to hopefully remove all of jung's credibility, even though Jung perhaps layed the foundation.

The point is - look im not moderator or anything Im just a Human on planet earth like the rest of you, i just wish we could take a more appropriate approach when speaking with regards to certain subject matter. i.e. musical notion or anything.

Show each other some respect is it that hard - we all have opinions, I have opinions - but it does not mean that I must degrade another person simply to make a point "

thats my two cents!

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Originally posted by Energy_3 you two are like Freud and Carl Jung - given your both intelligent people i'm sure you both understand. Both presented equally valid theories of their times - yet both chose to discredit each other from their wisdom proclaiming one to absolute over the other (although, early on they were best of friends - this is prob not the case here). However, this is not my point, the point is Freud consistently gave Jung a hard time about his theory and vice versa to some extent, and further, he did it in such a manner to an end, to hopefully remove all of jung's credibility, even though Jung perhaps layed the foundation. The point is - look im not moderator or anything Im just a Human on planet earth like the rest of you, i just wish we could take a more appropriate approach when speaking with regards to certain subject matter. i.e. musical notion or anything. Show each other some respect is it that hard - we all have opinions, I have opinions - but it does not mean that I must degrade another person simply to make a point " thats my two cents!

I don't care to "discredit" him. I only care when he throws up asanine insults for no reason, thats the only timeI get on him. If people can't be peacful, they don't deserve to be treated peacfully. Most of what he says I don't even disagree with. But meh, no point in giving him the benefit of the doubt. Look at the music theory thread for instance, its the same shit. He came in, started throwing turds around, and now we are talking about that instead of the topic, and as usual i'll be blamed for "going off topic".

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