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Posted by Joi Lamusic on Jun-25-2002 09:56:

Read This! Sine, Square and Saw??

Could someone PLEASE help me?
How can I tell what is sine/square or saw wave? I know this may be a stupid question


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Jun-25-2002 09:57:

And I am using Fruity....


Posted by robstar on Jun-25-2002 10:01:

FruityLoops 3.4\Samples\Instruments\Shapes\Basic



Just load em into a sampler or the 3ocs

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Posted by flutlicht junky on Jun-25-2002 10:13:

and there a certian site that has a small feature on waveforms


Posted by Peter Campbell on Jun-25-2002 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by flutlicht junky
and there a certian site that has a small feature on waveforms


Try this


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Jun-25-2002 12:04:

Thanks for the help Again I know something more, so THANKS THANKS x 10 000


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-26-2002 13:26:

Listen to a single osc in your synth and hear the differences
some typical sounds :
Sine : for basses, you get that -i feel the bass in my stomache -feeling by using low tones with this waveform

Saw : rough sounding, more for leads etc.. 90 % of trancesongs uses a double detuned saw waveform with unision and effects loaded on it

Square : a bit smoother than saw, ex : lethal industry lead sound is a square waveform with pulse width on it.

Triangle : something in between sine and saw


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Jun-26-2002 16:18:

TraNcerke, thanks a lot

Ummh... How will I do
"a double detuned saw waveform with unision and effects loaded on it"? I just don't know, so help help help again


Posted by Michael Russo on Jun-26-2002 20:50:

get a synth with two saw oscillators... set them both so they play the exact same thing (in the same octave). Then take the "fine" knob or whatever it's called depending on your synth and move one of the two SLIGHTLY so they are detuned by a little bit. Then (depending on your synth) you can put it in unison mode, which will further detune it. Then slap on some FX and you're good to go...


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-27-2002 14:22:

Exactly what I meant Michael If you have a 3-osc synth you could add another osc and set it one octave lower and try some other things on it like fm, a little ring modulation to get your own sound, that's how I do it .


Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-27-2002 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Russo
Then (depending on your synth) you can put it in unison mode, which will further detune it.


Unison doesn't necessarily detune everything. Unison means that every time you bash on a key, all the oscillators sound all at once. This of course soudns fattest if you have them all detuned, but they can also play a "clean" note.


Posted by Michael Russo on Jun-27-2002 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G


Unison doesn't necessarily detune everything. Unison means that every time you bash on a key, all the oscillators sound all at once. This of course soudns fattest if you have them all detuned, but they can also play a "clean" note.


I thought all the oscillators sound all at one no matter what? Say you have a 2 osc synth. Both oscs will play when u hit a key no matter what. But if you put unison on and up the voices to two, it'll be like you really have 4 oscs playing at the same time (therefore louder). And you can usually set however much you want to detune it.


Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-27-2002 19:14:

yes, a sound has like 2 oscillators. But that doesn't mean the synth has 2 oscillators. If you push 2 keys at the same time you hear 2 oscs on one key and 2 oscs on the other key

unison eats away your polyphony to make sure you get more oscs by pushing one button....

not sure I said this very clear...

nowadays they often use some other method, which is more like a chorus effect.


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-28-2002 10:30:

I thought unision just doubles exactly the same suond you programmed and then you can detune the unision layers


Posted by Dj Ahter on Jun-28-2002 12:57:

If I were you I's detune everything....if using more than 1 osc, it always helps to produce PHAT synths


Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-28-2002 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by TraNcerke
I thought unision just doubles exactly the same suond you programmed and then you can detune the unision layers

umm could be that too...I'm not really sure about the definition of unison....too damn lazy to look it up too


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Jun-28-2002 18:28:

Ok, I gotta try these tips when I got time to sit down and get Fruity going on So thanks for the help!



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