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Hundreds Of ISPs Refuse To Go Along With Big Brother Spy System

http://www.prisonplanet.com/hundred...spy-system.html

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A group of over 300 internet service providers and telecommunications firms is fighting back against the British government�s plans to monitor all emails, phone calls and internet activity nationwide. The London Internet Exchange (LINX), which represents some 330 companies, including BT, Virgin and Carphone Warehouse, says that the government is misleading the public about the extent to which it plans to monitor their communications and internet activity. LINX has described the Government�s surveillance proposals as an �unwarranted� invasion of people�s privacy. A statement from the group to the Home Office reads: �We view the description of the Government�s proposals as maintaining the capability as disingenuous � the volume of data the Government now proposes we should collect and retain will be unprecedented.� �This is a purely political description that serves only to win consent by hiding the extent of the proposed extension of powers for the state.�

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The crickets come out in this forum when fucked up things like this get brought up... like my thread about the "95% of the people won't see their taxes get raised a dime when I'm elected" lie being exposed.

How crazy is this? Setting up a domestic/civillian spy force, enlisting citizens to tattle to the government on other citizens??? This is like the Hitler Youth thing where kids were told in school to tell the authorities if they overheard their parents discussing things that were contrary to Nazism. Let's see the hypocricy in this...

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There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can�t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we�re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to [email protected].

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanue...-know-about-it/




So if you oppose Obamacare, even in casual conversation, they want to know about it and they want names. And they still haven't said what they plan on doing with those names. Fucking fucked up.


Flashback to April 28th, 2003. Here's Hillary Clinton yelling:

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I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, "WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!"

Re: Hundreds Of ISPs Refuse To Go Along With Big Brother Spy System

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Originally posted by iTranscendence http://www.prisonplanet.com

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Originally posted by The17sss The crickets come out in this forum when fucked up things like this get brought up... like my thread about the "95% of the people won't see their taxes get raised a dime when I'm elected" lie being exposed. How crazy is this? Setting up a domestic/civillian spy force, enlisting citizens to tattle to the government on other citizens??? This is like the Hitler Youth thing where kids were told in school to tell the authorities if they overheard their parents discussing things that were contrary to Nazism. Let's see the hypocricy in this... http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanue...-know-about-it/ So if you oppose Obamacare, even in casual conversation, they want to know about it and they want names. And they still haven't said what they plan on doing with those names. Fucking fucked up. Flashback to April 28th, 2003. Here's Hillary Clinton yelling:

Yeah, no I could tell right away who the trolls of this forum are and that they don't like any serious dicussion, it's why they immediately attack you and belittle you.

Edit: video related on people not talking about real issues.

Re: Hundreds Of ISPs Refuse To Go Along With Big Brother Spy System

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Originally posted by iTranscendence http://www.prisonplanet.com/hundred...spy-system.html inb4 any CT related comments statis sycophants

Are you retarded? We can all see the UK government blatantly trying to increase their surveillance powers. Far far different than saying the government is conspiring to kill its own people and blame it on foreign terrorists.

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Originally posted by The17sss How crazy is this? Setting up a domestic/civillian spy force, enlisting citizens to tattle to the government on other citizens??? This is like the Hitler Youth thing where kids were told in school to tell the authorities if they overheard their parents discussing things that were contrary to Nazism. Let's see the hypocricy in this... http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanue...-know-about-it/ So if you oppose Obamacare, even in casual conversation, they want to know about it and they want names. And they still haven't said what they plan on doing with those names. Fucking fucked up.

If Republicans excel at anything, it's fear mongering. I know it was important for the last administration to stay as far away from the people, and that it's so horrible that this administration actually tries to make some connection with the people. They want to know the other side of the argument, and especially the rumors, which are often flat out wrong. I find no problem whatsoever with them seeking to be aware of what these rumors are so they can formulate responses and rebuttals to all of them. This fear mongering campaign by the right wing is laughable. And I'm dissappointed you fell head over heels for it. Hitler Youth? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Yeah, no I could tell right away who the trolls of this forum are and that they don't like any serious dicussion, it's why they immediately attack you and belittle you.

I attack and belittle you because youre a fucking moron that uses prisonplanet as a source, and (like the rest of the usual suspects) your field of interest is so predictably narrow we�re all fucking sick of it.

If you actually had something worthwhile or meaningful to discuss I�d leave you alone. But of course, 100% of your posts in here are on the same damned topics we�ve all dealt with a million times already. You�re such a fucking clich�.

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Yeah, no I could tell right away who the trolls of this forum are and that they don't like any serious dicussion, it's why they immediately attack you and belittle you.

You do realize the conspiracy enthusiasts in this forum are the only ones crying "troll"...

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Originally posted by Krypton If Republicans excel at anything, it's fear mongering. I know it was important for the last administration to stay as far away from the people, and that it's so horrible that this administration actually tries to make some connection with the people. They want to know the other side of the argument, and especially the rumors, which are often flat out wrong. I find no problem whatsoever with them seeking to be aware of what these rumors are so they can formulate responses and rebuttals to all of them. This fear mongering campaign by the right wing is laughable. And I'm dissappointed you fell head over heels for it. Hitler Youth? Are you fucking kidding me?

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/552a.html

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According to 5 U.S.C. � 552a, United States agencies, including the Executive Office of the President shall, �maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity.�

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/552a.html

File a lawsuit.

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Originally posted by Krypton File a lawsuit.

That's your rebuttal? Seriously?

I think I'm the last person to realize who the OP is.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT That's your rebuttal? Seriously?

Because asking for chain emails to be sent to the White House so they are aware of the rumors floating around and be better able to counter them is "maintaining a record"...

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Originally posted by Krypton Because asking for chain emails to be sent to the White House so they are aware of the rumors floating around and be better able to counter them is "maintaining a record"...

a citizen snitch force? nothing wrong with that? They still haven't said what they indend on doing with those names. As John Cornyn said, I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had Obama's predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House.

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Originally posted by Krypton Because asking for chain emails to be sent to the White House so they are aware of the rumors floating around and be better able to counter them is "maintaining a record"...

You don't believe they are doing anything with the emails? Why would they ask people to go as far as to alert them and in turn put them in the trash bin?

Your logic fails.

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Originally posted by Krypton Because asking for chain emails to be sent to the White House so they are aware of the rumors floating around and be better able to counter them is "maintaining a record"...

HURR DURR

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think I'm the last person to realize who the OP is.

Who am I? Do tell, I love a good conspiracy.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think I'm the last person to realize who the OP is.

in iTranscendence's defence, he can spell and form proper sentences, so he clearly isn't culorut. he also doesn't post page after page of other people's ideas (well, except for his links in the 911 thread) so he isn't trancer either.

i think he's just a poor soul that got lost on the logic highway somewhere. im sure when he gets a little older he'll grow out of these juvenile positions he's found himself with.

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Do tell, I love a good conspiracy.

no need to point that out mate!

I don't object to them being aware of the opposition's arguments, though the way they are going about it is probably questionable.

I think it is strange and very suspicious. Do you really think they don't know popular arguments against health care?

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Originally posted by Krypton I don't object to them being aware of the opposition's arguments, though the way they are going about it is probably questionable.

Ya think? Reminds me of the bush administration sending the FBI to spy on peace fresno, cause you know a bunch of old hippies, they might be the next alqaeda.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail I think it is strange and very suspicious. Do you really think they don't know popular arguments against health care?

We're talking about viral emails which contain who knows what as disinformation is concerned. I wouldn't have liked to see them keeping a record of individual's email accounts which forwarding emails would probably entail. Better to copy and paste the email itself or something.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN he also doesn't post page after page of other people's ideas (well, except for his links in the 911 thread) so he isn't trancer either.

Ah, good point. Carry on then.

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