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Posted by tranceholic on Aug-10-2009 07:38:

recorded set needs editing

what is a good software to edit recorded set?
what should i look for? like normalizer? compression? limiter???


Posted by displaced on Aug-10-2009 09:28:

garage band!

for basic things, i think audacity does a pretty good job at fraction of system resources garage band requires just to open it.

anyways, what do you mean by edit? if you flubbed a set, no software can undo a wreck.


Posted by Wayne_B on Aug-10-2009 16:08:

Hi there, you might be able to manage with the software you already have.. I personally use Soundforge/Cubase to record my mixes. The newer versions of Soundforge have vsti plugin support so you can use your favourite compressor etc. which means you can do everything in one program which is a great time saver.
edit:
Normalising should be included in almost every program and is a standard process(I think).
I usually use Waves Rcomp but its just to reduce the stray peaks that are produced during mixing parts.

Its important to get your levels correct at the recording stage and when mixing its very important to give the song coming in room by reducing the volume of the one going out.. lol this sounds obvious but it takes practice to get good at keeping your levels(and combined volume level) under control.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Aug-10-2009 21:03:

www.reaper.fm


Posted by snatonsb on Aug-12-2009 01:54:

How's Ableton for doing mixes....?


Posted by n3lly on Aug-12-2009 12:51:

When people normalise their sets do you normalise them to 0db?


Posted by Zild on Aug-12-2009 13:38:

What to you mean by edit it? The only editing I've ever done to a set is start a song over if I make a mistake, so I can cut it out and splice the good parts together. Other than that I never apply any mastering FX like compression to the entire set, and I would definitely never use a limiter. I like to build and release tension and compression will kill that.

Either way I use Audacity because it is free, and works well for recording and making little edits.


Posted by Wayne_B on Aug-12-2009 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
When people normalise their sets do you normalise them to 0db?


I do mine to -0.5 or thereabouts. Sometimes there's only one stray peak that needs attention to get the normalizing right. I try my best not to compress things though.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-12-2009 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
What to you mean by edit it? The only editing I've ever done to a set is start a song over if I make a mistake, so I can cut it out and splice the good parts together.

That's like...cheating, or something.

Who else does that?


Posted by displaced on Aug-19-2009 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
That's like...cheating, or something.

Who else does that?


when you're in logic (or ableton) hooked up to a mixerboard and you have all the time in the world to mulligan it.

i never splice together two good portions of recordings and call it live. that just seems like you're trying to deceive everyone of your true abilities.


Posted by Zild on Aug-19-2009 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
That's like...cheating, or something.

Who else does that?


Maybe if you tell everyone you mixed it live at a big club when you really did a studio mix but no everyone does that.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-19-2009 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Maybe if you tell everyone you mixed it live at a big club when you really did a studio mix but no everyone does that.

I think if you can't pull off a successful mix within a few tries then you shouldn't be fooling the people you're sharing it with, or yourself...


Posted by Zild on Aug-20-2009 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
I think if you can't pull off a successful mix within a few tries then you shouldn't be fooling the people you're sharing it with, or yourself...


Most of the lives mixes I hear from professional DJs have plenty of mistakes.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-20-2009 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Most of the lives mixes I hear from professional DJs have plenty of mistakes.

Exactly. Mixes don't need to be flawless...hence editing small mistakes is somewhat overdoing it, imo.


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-20-2009 02:18:

i've done it before, i'll be rocking a solid set and a transition just doesn't go as smoothly as i wanted, i'll restart the outgoing track, try the mix again and splice it out later

i can bang out a wicked mix live, but if i'm selling or giving out a mix cd then of course i'm going to give them the absolute best face i can put forward, especially if this is a printed mix that i'm putting loads of money into for professionally printed cds, cases and inserts that i will be selling, this is a permanent record of you and what you do, why not make it as flawless as you can (cause there's a bunch of djs out there that can, and will play for cheaper than you)

beatmatching takes all of 10 seconds to do, at this point in my career my crowd expects flawless mix cds from me because that's what i've provided for them all these years and will continue to do so (my live mixes are good, but they're certainly not a studio mix sometimes, it's live, shit happens)

i can bang out a mix in one take, have done it in the past and will do it again, but there's those times when editing one transition to make a great mix cd is fine if it will take less effort to go back and start again (especially if it's been on the money so far), as long as you have the skills to back it up and to edit it in the first place then go for it


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-20-2009 09:42:

Totally understand where you're coming from. I'd want the best product too for promos. My favorite albums probably wouldn't be half as good if not for this technique.

I just hope it wouldn't be a habit, where as the OP seems new to mixing/recording. A veteran who can bang it out if needed deserves a break every now and then, but a beginner should be pushing himself, not taking the easy way out.


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-20-2009 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Totally understand where you're coming from. I'd want the best product too for promos. My favorite albums probably wouldn't be half as good if not for this technique.

I just hope it wouldn't be a habit, where as the OP seems new to mixing/recording. A veteran who can bang it out if needed deserves a break every now and then, but a beginner should be pushing himself, not taking the easy way out.


that's why i made sure to put in
quote:
as long as you have the skills to back it up and to edit it in the first place then go for it


especially if it's a demo to try get gigs, don't try passing off something that isn't you or you're not able to do in a live situation

i do this with my promo mixes, but i can back up what is on cd


Posted by agentdansmith on Aug-25-2009 12:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Wayne_B
I do mine to -0.5 or thereabouts. Sometimes there's only one stray peak that needs attention to get the normalizing right. I try my best not to compress things though.


How do you sort out the odd stray peak after the set has been recorded?

This is a problem I have quite often - I can keep the levels fairly consistent throughout the mix but there is always the odd few little peaks that prevent me from being able to normalise the mix afterwards.

Any pointers??



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