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Posted by Microlab on Aug-11-2009 13:59:

Is it aftertouch?

In Air for Life (Above&Beyond and Andy Moor) there's a pad smoothly boosting in volume. Is it an anftertouch function of a keyboard that allows to achieve this effect?


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 14:16:

Very doubtful. I'd guess it's either envelope or automation.


Posted by Waza on Aug-11-2009 14:17:

it might be actually just automated volume on it nothing more. i've not heard sample but you could achieve such an effect doing this.


Posted by Eric J on Aug-11-2009 14:20:

Re: Is it aftertouch?

quote:
Originally posted by Microlab
In Air for Life (Above&Beyond and Andy Moor) there's a pad smoothly boosting in volume. Is it an anftertouch function of a keyboard that allows to achieve this effect?


That track is all sidechain, man.


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 14:25:

Re: Re: Is it aftertouch?

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
That track is all sidechain, man.


I think he's talking about the slow-building pad which is very noticeable in the break.


Posted by Microlab on Aug-11-2009 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Very doubtful. I'd guess it's either envelope or automation.


What's an aftertouch then?


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Microlab
What's an aftertouch then?


Aftertouch does indeed allow one to affect the sound after the initial "strike" of the key in some way, be that volume, vibrato, etc.

However, that's not something that I'd say is terribly common on hardware keyboard synths or MIDI keyboards (though I could be wrong).

Most pads have this sort of inherent slow fade-in (envelope... in other words, a slow attack). There'd be no reason to try to "manually" express it.


Posted by Microlab on Aug-11-2009 14:30:

Re: Re: Re: Is it aftertouch?

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
I think he's talking about the slow-building pad which is very noticeable in the break.

I am. Any tips?


Posted by Microlab on Aug-11-2009 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Aftertouch does indeed allow one to affect the sound after the initial "strike" of the key in some way, be that volume, vibrato, etc.

However, that's not something that I'd say is terribly common on hardware keyboard synths or MIDI keyboards (though I could be wrong).

Most pads have this sort of inherent slow fade-in (envelope... in other words, a slow attack). There'd be no reason to try to "manually" express it.


You mean is it possible to achieve this sort of effect with just messing with ADSR? hmm


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 14:38:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is it aftertouch?

quote:
Originally posted by Microlab
I am. Any tips?


quote:
You mean is it possible to achieve this sort of effect with just messing with ADSR? hmm




Yessir!

This is an ADSR envelope, which stands for "Attack, Decay, Sustain, and Release". The function of an ADSR envelope (in relation to volume) is to modulate loudness over time.

Attack - how quickly the sound is activated after the key is pressed.

Decay - how quickly the sound drops to the sustain level after the initial peak.

Sustain - the volume level (constant) at which the sound remains until the key is released.

Release - how quickly the sound fades when a key is released.


For this type of pad, you want a slow attack... which means that when you press the key (or activate the note in your sequencer, etc.) the sound will slowly fade in.


Posted by DjStephenWiley on Aug-11-2009 15:08:

im going to sound like such an idiot for this.....but what is the easiest way to make the attack not rise above the sustain level? (basically just cut out the decay)


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
im going to sound like such an idiot for this.....but what is the easiest way to make the attack not rise above the sustain level? (basically just cut out the decay)


I think just make the sustain setting at full volume. Remember, sustain sets VOLUME, not time like the others. (The above picture is a bit misleading, I just realized.) Then, the decay time is irrelevant.


Posted by Eric J on Aug-11-2009 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
basically just cut out the decay)


Turn your decay param to 0. Simple. That makes the attack stage go directly to the sustain stage.


Posted by david.michael on Aug-11-2009 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
Turn your decay param to 0. Simple. That makes the attack stage go directly to the sustain stage.


Or that.


Posted by DjStephenWiley on Aug-11-2009 15:44:

thx. i need a good tips and tricks read on envelopes. i understand what they are and what they do but don't know any "common" tips, settings, tricks, etc. If anyone could recommend an article, or share some tips, that would be much appreciated.



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