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Posted by denys envy on Aug-12-2009 16:13:

2009/10 Barclays Premier League Thread

Couldn't find one.

Season starts Saturday! Woo-Hoo!

Come on Hammers!


Posted by ManiX on Aug-12-2009 17:52:

hate to say it... but this season should be Chelskis

anyway... GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED


Posted by psymon.d on Aug-12-2009 18:11:

Predo's?

1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Man City
6. Everton
7. Tottenham
8. Villa
9. West Ham
10. Fulham
11. Sunderland
12. Bolton
13. Stoke
14. Blackburn
15. Wigan
16. Hull
17. Wolves
18. Portsmouth
19. Birmingham
20. Burnley

Sack Race?
Mark Hughes


Posted by Kapedano on Aug-12-2009 23:17:

I am going with Liverpool for this year. I think they have a very good chance.


Posted by ManiX on Aug-13-2009 11:54:

I don't know about Arsenal, lost Toure, and now maybe Senderos, lost Ade, i think if they don't buy a defensive midfielder(not famous, but experienced like Veloso,Inler,Mbia,Obi-Mikel)..i think 4th place is for Man City


Posted by verndogs on Aug-13-2009 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by ManiX
I don't know about Arsenal, lost Toure, and now maybe Senderos, lost Ade, i think if they don't buy a defensive midfielder(not famous, but experienced like Veloso,Inler,Mbia,Obi-Mikel)..i think 4th place is for Man City


I personally think Arsenal, Villa and Everton are better than City at this point.


Posted by denys envy on Aug-13-2009 17:55:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Liverpool
4. Man Utd
5. Man City
6. Aston Villa
7. Tottenham
8. Everton
9. West Ham
10. Fulham
11. Sunderland
12. Birmingham
13. Bolton
14. Portsmouth
15. Blackburn
16. Burnley
17. Wolves
18. Wigan
19. Hull
20. Stoke


Posted by pmoisse on Aug-13-2009 18:56:

I was at the England - Holland friendly last night, and damn, Carlton Cole really impressed me.

He's massive, but super quick on his feet and he had a couple control moves last night that were really slick.

I hadn't heard of him before so I'm not sure when he started playing or his history or anything.

He changed the attack of the England side last night though


Posted by verndogs on Aug-13-2009 20:08:

Relegation picks: Portsmouth, Hull (as much as I'm an Altidore fan), Wolves


Posted by chesco on Aug-13-2009 21:43:

Few predictions from moi

1) andre arshavin for poty

2) top 4 - chelski, man united, arsenal, liverpool

3) mark hughes to be first manager to lose his job

4) relegation, hull, burley, birmingham


Posted by Ian on Aug-13-2009 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
I was at the England - Holland friendly last night, and damn, Carlton Cole really impressed me.

He's massive, but super quick on his feet and he had a couple control moves last night that were really slick.

I hadn't heard of him before so I'm not sure when he started playing or his history or anything.

He changed the attack of the England side last night though


He's immensely strong but attitude problems and lazyness have gone against him in the past. He's the kind of player you totally need to play how he did last night but often gets lost within the game.

My prediction

1. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
3. Man City
4. Chelski
5. Man Utd
6. Villa
7. Everton
8. Bolton
9. West Ham
10. Fulham
11. Stoke
12. Blackburn
13. Burnley
14. Hull
15. Wigan
16. Portsmouth
17. Sunderland
18. Birmingham
19. Wolves
20. Spurs


Posted by pmoisse on Aug-14-2009 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
He's immensely strong but attitude problems and lazyness have gone against him in the past. He's the kind of player you totally need to play how he did last night but often gets lost within the game.


Ahh, gotcha. That's a shame. Hopefully he can get his head out of his ass and just concentrate on playing quality football.


Posted by Ian on Aug-14-2009 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
Ahh, gotcha. That's a shame. Hopefully he can get his head out of his ass and just concentrate on playing quality football.


doesn't help that as a youngster he was at chelsea, behind the big names, never really given much of a chance and obviously he got the ego of other players without having anything for it. Last season was his first 'good' season and he'll have to give a couple more of those to really arrive. He always showed potential at under21 level, but so did players like Jeffers


Posted by psymon.d on Aug-14-2009 19:12:

Zola's a good bet to get the best out of him. really impressed with what he did last year. great players don't always make great managers!


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-14-2009 19:14:

People actually watch this league?


Posted by Ian on Aug-14-2009 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
People actually watch this league?


Just because we use british groundsmen & not your mexicans, doesn't make it a bad league. It's quite funny how I knew before I read your post what it would say. La Liga is good. Premier League also. but Serie A & Ligue 1 and others are beyond our championship in attendances and excitement.


Posted by pmoisse on Aug-14-2009 19:26:

^ agreed. My fav's are the Premier League and La Liga for sure.
I just haven't been able to get into bundesliga, League 1 or Serie A


Posted by psymon.d on Aug-14-2009 19:44:

Aside from big fixtures, Serie A really is poor to watch imo (though I rate Juventus this year with a signing like Diego!), but I enjoy the bundesliga every now and then. It's incredibly high-scoring, all be it a result from lower quality defending.


Posted by Ian on Aug-14-2009 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by psymon.d
Aside from big fixtures, Serie A really is poor to watch imo (though I rate Juventus this year with a signing like Diego!), but I enjoy the bundesliga every now and then. It's incredibly high-scoring, all be it a result from lower quality defending.


indeed. Serie A is soooooo boring now. It was way nicer back when Parma had chiesa, crespo, veron, cannavaro, sensini, buffon etc


Posted by chesco on Aug-14-2009 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
^ agreed. My fav's are the Premier League and La Liga for sure.
I just haven't been able to get into bundesliga, League 1 or Serie A


Since the scandal i've not paid much attention to serie a as it's been poor in quality, and they no longer show it on UK tv (altho some games are back on espn this year). I think it will take another 5 years for serie a to recover from what happened (if it ever does)..

My adivce is - give bundesliga a chance, some of the best games I watched came in the bundesliga last season and their league over the last 5 to 10 years has been the most unpredictable.

It's a great league and one which imo takes over from serie a as 3rd best league in europe..

For me in terms of quality and excitement - you can't beat la liga tho, and it's only going to be better and more interesting with the players that have been added to the league. Can't wait for it to start.


Posted by pmoisse on Aug-15-2009 07:03:

^ well said. I have nothing against the German league, I just haven't had much opportunity to watch it. They have some great talent playing there for sure.

I should subscribe to Sport1 here in Amsterdam so that I get more footy on TV - especially from La Liga.


Posted by Kapedano on Aug-15-2009 17:22:

It might take them a few years to recover, but having (if they ever do) as an option makes me smile a little bit. This league comes from a nation that has won 4 world cups. Where as the other two best leagues right now are a combined for 1 world cup.

So yes, I might agree with you that it will take a little time, but Italian football will come back to the level it was once, if not better.


Posted by Damerchi on Aug-15-2009 19:00:

terrible logic to judge a league by, Uruguay must have some some solid clubs then?

Edit: I saw the Bolton-Sunderland match, what a save at the last minute of the newbie's shot! Ian, did you go? The kits didn't look that bad in real life


Posted by Kapedano on Aug-15-2009 23:27:

I think you are missing my point and perhaps I was not as detailed in my respond. My point is that for a person to have an option for Seria A stating that they might never recover from this scandal is absurd. It's like saying that the Democrats might never recover from Clintons scandal.

I hope you can understand now. I know that you post on the political forum

Anyways, great win for Sunderland. That's my new favorite EPL team as my fellow Albanian plays there


Posted by psymon.d on Aug-16-2009 01:30:

Good chance Rodallega's goal today will be top 5 in the season. What a stunner! I was impressed with Wigan today. N'Zogbia is a talented player, and with the youth/creativity of Sidwell and an often talked about Jason Scotland available on the bench they've got some good options outside the starting XI.


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