For all you classical music buffs

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Posted by da_MynDLesS_one on Jun-26-2002 03:54:

For all you classical music buffs

for all of you that know your classical music genres...

I dunno how this popped into my head, but bear with me:

I just noticed some similarities in the different genres of trance and genres of classical.

IE. Goa/Psy trance = Baroque... both complicated, all sorts of different things going on at once

Uplifting/Epic Trance = Classical... very melodic, sticks to one melodic line and uses it in different ways throughout the song

Progressive = Romance... a lot of emotion, but very suppressed... simplistic

what do yall think?

Posted by Endre on Jun-26-2002 04:28:

may be like that, who knows

happy new year!
/Endre

Posted by stamper on Jun-26-2002 05:34:

Yeah i agree. I seriously think trance is the new breed of classical music.

Posted by Spin Doctor on Jun-26-2002 13:07:

So I suppose Scouse House = Nationalistic

Posted by JMF [TrAcId] on Jun-26-2002 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Doctor
So I suppose Scouse House = Nationalistic

OMG - how funny!

I agree with those points though there are definate elements of classical styling in trance music. - not just the strings - but the composition.

Posted by Jayci on Jun-26-2002 20:43:

i think romantic fits into the melodic trance category as well

Posted by Michael Russo on Jun-27-2002 02:41:

Re: For all you classical music buffs

quote:
Originally posted by da_MynDLesS_one
Goa/Psy trance = Baroque

I haven't heard a baroque song in a couple of years, but from what I remember (when I studied it) I'd have to say I don't agree. But I may be wrong...

And I don't think trance is extremely similar to classical. I mean, when you compare it to many other types of current music trance is one of the most complicated, but there really isn't much harmony going on in trance songs... you got your lead for your melody and a pad sound for the harmony... that's pretty much it. If you can hear one of mozart's pieces in your head and compare, there's a lot more harmony going on. You just can't do that with trance. More ambient-type stuff maybe... but the kind of trance you'd hear at a rave or in a club isn't really comparable to classical.

There's always IDM which may be more similar, but I haven't heard very much of it so I can't give my opinion on that.

Posted by Michael Russo on Jun-27-2002 02:42:

Re: For all you classical music buffs

quote:
Originally posted by da_MynDLesS_one
Progressive = Romance

now you're getting a little carried away don't you think?

Posted by da_MynDLesS_one on Jun-27-2002 04:13:

Re: Re: For all you classical music buffs

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Russo

now you're getting a little carried away don't you think?

as far as it being very suppressed, I think it's a reasonable comparison.

Posted by Peter Campbell on Jun-27-2002 11:36:

Right on Michael Russo,I love contemporary Classical music mostly Movie
scores, Hans Zimmer is unbelievable. As some one that Producers Trance and Classical I think Trance is way off the complexity , structure, harmonys and melodies compaird to Classical.
Now lest face it producing Trance all most anyone can have a go, but scoring Classical music with 100 pice Orchestra with complex progressions of notes moving up and the same time moving down and adding harmonys through the middle, I'm still yet to see some Trance Producer come close

Posted by dj_mdma on Jun-27-2002 11:51:

Right, as a classical musician (I'm trained in Piano and Violin and play in a Symphony Orchestra) I'll add my 2 pence!

I can see why Myndless_one compares Goa/Psy trance with Baroque, cos its sorta experimental stuff. Baroque music was the early stages of what could be defined classical music, altho of course it isn't, its baroque Composers were experimenting with new sounds and styling. The Clarinet had just been invented and composers were getting to grips with it.

quote:
Now lest face it producing Trance all most anyone can have a go, but scoring Classical music with 100 pice Orchestra with complex progressions of notes moving up and the same time moving down and adding harmonys through the middle, I'm still yet to see some Trance Producer come close

Out of most, if not all modern dance music genre's Trance is the only one which comes closest to classical. With all its layers of sound, melodies and all that. A comparison can be drawn between the two genre's of music, but thats not to sya they are entirely similar.

As for Progressive being Romance, I feel I have to say NO! Music of the romantic era may have seemed to be suprresed, but it was still emotional, and did indeed, build up to something more. Progressive doesn't do that, so I'd say it was more like "modern classical", i.e. Shite!

Posted by arjoderoon on Jun-27-2002 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by mr_stamper
Yeah i agree. I seriously think trance is the new breed of classical music.

i second that..
you must be right..the only difference between trance and classical is that trance has a beat within it..

Posted by Michael Russo on Jun-27-2002 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by arjoderoon

the only difference between trance and classical is that trance has a beat within it..

lol, no!!! read the posts above