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James Zabiela hints at what you can expect next from Pioneer.

Not that many details, but you can see in what direction they're going.

http://www.djsounds.com/08/17/dawn-of-a-new-species/

The new players from Pioneer are rumoured to have full coloured LCD screens.

sound really innovative .....

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Originally posted by xtr3m The new players from Pioneer are rumoured to have full coloured LCD screens.

how would that be in any way helpful

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Originally posted by supersaw abuse how would that be in any way helpful

you can see the waveform like in a dvs setup?

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Originally posted by supersaw abuse how would that be in any way helpful

They're trying to remove the need to look at laptop screen often. The new LCD screen would allow to navigate digital collection, etc.

So they're making this to market only to the djs that want to stop looking at their laptops as much? I don't see much market for that.

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Originally posted by xtr3m They're trying to remove the need to look at laptop screen often. The new LCD screen would allow to navigate digital collection, etc.

would have to be a pretty goddamn big screen

So instead of staring at a laptop screen for a while you can stare at what will probably be a much smaller screen for a while.

Amazing.

I bet the computer would be easier to navigate as well.

I'll reserve total judgment until I actually see the device.

will wait for more info on this...

Honestly, one of the main reasons I switched to a DVS with external control was to avoid having to pre-burn cds every time I want to mix something new. It's a major pain in the ass and the DVS solved that problem for me and many others. I'd consider dropping a DVS all together if these new screens on the players give you a list of all the tracks a la the MEP mobile players from Pioneer.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Honestly, one of the main reasons I switched to a DVS with external control was to avoid having to pre-burn cds every time I want to mix something new. It's a major pain in the ass and the DVS solved that problem for me and many others. I'd consider dropping a DVS all together if these new screens on the players give you a list of all the tracks a la the MEP mobile players from Pioneer.

so you'd drop your DVS to buy something that does the exact same thing? just a smaller screen?

how do you know it's a smaller screen?

midi controller with dvs and audio8dj has a bigger soundstage, dynamics, bass, highs, than any cdj that will come out for the next year or so. Why waste 1500 + on something that is worse including burning cds everytime a track comes out. When you can get a midi controller for $100-200, audio8dj 400$, traktor pro $200.

whats that $800 dollars vs $3,200 for the new cdjs that doesnt come with effects or filtering

DVS-Quality
CDJS-Digital Bullshit

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd midi controller with dvs and audio8dj has a bigger soundstage, dynamics, bass, highs, than any cdj that will come out for the next year or so. Why waste 1500 + on something that is worse including burning cds everytime a track comes out. When you can get a midi controller for $100-200, audio8dj 400$, traktor pro $200. whats that $800 dollars vs $3,200 for the new cdjs that doesnt come with effects or filtering DVS-Quality CDJS-Digital Bullshit End/thread

You're an idiot. The cdjs have MUCH better sound and dynamics. 20 hz to 20 khz. Traktor definitely does not go that far either way. And I stopped using my cdjs in favor of Traktor.

If you can see the full waveform like on Traktor on these cdjs I'm in from day 1. Pretty much the only reason I've been trying to sell my 1000's.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 You're an idiot. The cdjs have MUCH better sound and dynamics. 20 hz to 20 khz. Traktor definitely does not go that far either way. And I stopped using my cdjs in favor of Traktor. If you can see the full waveform like on Traktor on these cdjs I'm in from day 1. Pretty much the only reason I've been trying to sell my 1000's.

wtf are you talking about?

The Dac in the Audio8Dj is superior to the MK3. In order to a play song, a track has to be burned onto cd, hence converted to Wav or you can keep mp3. Why play cd format when you can play tracks straight from the hardrive than converted to Analogue, no cd writing process involved. Another thing cds get damaged, computer music files don't get scratched. Another thing. The cdjs don't even have a headphone output meaning your not truly hearing whats coming out of them cuz its connected to another component (mixer) but with audio8dj you can connect them straight to the dac. More dynamics, less noise, bigger soundstage. Its bus powered no noise from power cables like you would from cdjs.

Edit: Audio8DJ specs

Frequency Response 10 - 40kHz
CDJ1000 20 - 20kHz like you said

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/dj/audio-8-dj/?page=298

LMAO ^^

clearly some has yet to do their homework!



edit: i really can't see how pioneer can come back from having the cdjs pretty much go obsolete. what can they possibly bring that isn't already covered?

i love playing on cdjs, all kinds. midi doesn't suit me.

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Originally posted by Marcus007 how do you know it's a smaller screen?

I mean I'm just assuming by what the video says. Zabiela keeps mentioning how you won't need to be looking at a laptop and interacting with the crowd more or whatever.

If the screen is just like a laptop inside a CDJ, then isn't that basically the same thing?

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd wtf are you talking about? The Dac in the Audio8Dj is superior to the MK3. In order to a play song, a track has to be burned onto cd, hence converted to Wav or you can keep mp3. Why play cd format when you can play tracks straight from the hardrive than converted to Analogue, no cd writing process involved. Another thing cds get damaged, computer music files don't get scratched. Another thing. The cdjs don't even have a headphone output meaning your not truly hearing whats coming out of them cuz its connected to another component (mixer) but with audio8dj you can connect them straight to the dac. More dynamics, less noise, bigger soundstage. Its bus powered no noise from power cables like you would from cdjs. Edit: Audio8DJ specs Frequency Response 10 - 40kHz CDJ1000 20 - 20kHz like you said http://www.native-instruments.com/#...-8-dj/?page=298

Save yourself and delete your profile.

I mean i know that YOUR opinion is that Audio8DJ is amazing like unicorns with flame shooting out of their face's...but have you ever really done your correct research on this subject?

Not to mention ever look at the list of people who use the MK3?

Its oh...i dont know...EVERYONE!? Plus a select handful of DJs.

There's probably a reason that the 1000s are the standard, maybe you should google it some more.

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Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel Save yourself and delete your profile. I mean i know that YOUR opinion is that Audio8DJ is amazing like unicorns with flame shooting out of their face's...but have you ever really done your correct research on this subject? Not to mention ever look at the list of people who use the MK3? Its oh...i dont know...EVERYONE!? Plus a select handful of DJs. There's probably a reason that the 1000s are the standard, maybe you should google it some more.

you newb i have 2 cdj1000's and their crap. i just posted the truth and you wnana know why is everyone is using them is cuz they fell for the $3,000 trap. I listed the specs u idiot.

Do some more research, come back with solid facts...then feel free to call me a newb.

I also own 2 1000s MK3s, and a DJM800, Live 7, and Sony Sound Forge.

I also have read all the manuals and specs and educated myself on what i own. I suggest u dig out that manual and read it over again.

Then come back with a valid argument.

w/e man

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd you newb i have 2 cdj1000's and their crap.

You know what everyone says about a workman and his tools???

Bah, considering you can't even buy tracks higher then 44/16 (CD audio quality), there's not much point in discussing sound quality differences between the DAC's in the CDJ vs audio 8. CDJ's sound great, the audio 8 sounds great. Move on.

I don't think we are going to be TOO surprised with this announcement:
1. A new CDJ
2. All the features of the CDJ-400 in a CDJ-1000 sized unit, MIDI, USB storage support, HID native mode support in Serato and Traktor, integrated sound cards.
3. A much much better track browsing function then what is on the CDJ-400 for navigating USB storage.

What I don't see happening:
1. Elimination of the CD-drive. This doesn't make sense. For this deck to be installed in clubs, it definitely needs to play audio cd's. There are still tons of people using them, and it's not ready to go away this generation. Plus, many MANY clubs won't be running out in this economy to spend $3000+ on new decks, when their existing CDJ-1000's work just fine. CD's will be around for a while.
2. Integrated hard drive. At this point in time, why bother? Moving platter, added expense, and why have a drive full of music installed into a club player? USB storage is dirt cheap. Grab a thumb drive or an external hard drive, plug it in at the club, done!

What I'm curious about:
1. Just how ridiculously priced it will be, considering the price hikes of the CDJ-1000 MK3 (although, maybe that's really driven by Pioneer slowing production?)
2. Whether this will be a merge of the CDJ and the DVJ. If it has an LCD screen on it, wouldn't it be nice if it could play video too?
3. Whether they'll support more audio formats, including high resolution audio formats. FLAC would be great.
4. Whether you can share a USB audio device across multiple players.
5. If they'll finally add nice tight auto-looping.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister You know what everyone says about a workman and his tools???

you know i tried shelling out the truth but i get flamed, bring it suckers

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