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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:14:

Another physics question.

i couldnt figure this one out on my exam .. it was tough lets see if anyone can do it here.


2 stones are thrown from the top of a building at 35 m/s. The first one lands after 5 seconds and travels a distance of 150 meters. The second one lands 2 seconds after.

Find.

Both initial angles

The height of the building

The distance for the second stone.


Good luck



I can get all the information for the first one.. but i'm lost with the second one completely


Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2009 00:18:

looks like you need a little bit of trig and the equations for accelerated motion


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2009 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
looks like you need a little bit of trig and the equations for accelerated motion


Time to get super-dooper creative and go where no one else has been before!


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:21:

its a bit trickier then that. You don't have the angle for the second stone all you have is the initial velocity and the time


you need another equation to equate the two.


Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2009 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
its a bit trickier then that. You don't have the angle for the second stone all you have is the initial velocity and the time


you need another equation to equate the two.


if you have the time you have the height then you have the angle


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:29:

the stone is thrown off the top.. let me draw a diagramn.. The height of the building wont really help unless you know the angle at which it is thrown.






its going up (past the height) then down again.


Posted by TotalDeathXZero on Aug-18-2009 00:33:

Re: Another physics question.

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i couldnt figure this one out on my exam .. it was tough lets see if anyone can do it here.


2 stones are thrown from the top of a building at 35 m/s. The first one lands after 5 seconds and travels a distance of 150 meters. The second one lands 2 seconds after.

Find.

Both initial angles

The height of the building

The distance for the second stone.


Good luck



I can get all the information for the first one.. but i'm lost with the second one completely


I fail at math


Posted by Sunsnail on Aug-18-2009 00:42:

240.35 meters high


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-18-2009 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
looks like you need a little bit of trig and the equations for accelerated motion


yeah, even i could figure that one out. well, if i was still in highschool and remembered which equations did what.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Time to get super-dooper creative and go where no one else has been before!



Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:48:





here i posted what i solved for



x=xo + vot (no acceleration in x component)

1)y=yo+vot +1/2 at^2
2)v=vo+at (you can use this for y component)
3)v^2=vo^2+ 2ay (you can use this for y component as well)


so for the first part i got the angle by using tvocos@=x

since i have x t and v i can solve for @ which gives 31 degrees.

From there i found my y componet by first solving for distance to zero velocity which gave 15.5 meters (v2=v02+2ay) where v=0 a -9.81.

I also solved for how much time that took using v=vo+at which gave me 1.78 seconds. I can subtract this from 5 to give me the remaining time that it will take to hit the ground from maximum height (zero velocity) 3.21.

I can use y=yo + 1/2at2 to solve for the distance to hit the ground from zero velocity. I subtract this number (50.7) from 15.5 and i get the height of the building to be 35.2.


This is all for the first stone (black) now all i know for the second stone (red) is that it lands 2 seconds after the first stone and it has the same velocity (35m/s).


Good luck


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2009 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, even i could figure that one out. well, if i was still in highschool and remembered which equations did what.


Yeah, this.

You are fucking dumb if you're doing this stuff at school with a text book and can't work it out. Physics is one of the easiest kinds of maths, at least at this level.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
240.35 meters high


2 seconds later.. not 500 seconds later. and its the same velocity as the first one.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2009 00:51:

Actually what's dumber is posting a question like this and expecting a serious response.


Posted by Sunsnail on Aug-18-2009 00:52:

nvm thought it was being dropped


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Yeah, this.

You are fucking dumb if you're doing this stuff at school with a text book and can't work it out. Physics is one of the easiest kinds of maths, at least at this level.


ok genius i gave you all the equations and 50 % of the question.. figure it out lol


I suggest you eat some meat before you attempt it though.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Actually what's dumber is posting a question like this and expecting a serious response.


whats dumber is if you say its so easy and then can't solve it.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2009 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Yeah, this.

You are fucking dumb if you're doing this stuff at school with a text book and can't work it out. Physics is one of the easiest kinds of maths, at least at this level.


Apparently you can't read either. It's been the better part of a decade since I did physics at school, I'm about as likely to remember that as I am to remember this thread in 10 years time.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Apparently you can't read either.


apparently you can't read either.. i gave you all the equations and a diagram. This was an exam question, obviously its going to be trickier then anything in the text book.

Anyways.. sorry im so stupid i can't solve a physics question lol.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-18-2009 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Yeah, this.

You are fucking dumb if you're doing this stuff at school with a text book and can't work it out. Physics is one of the easiest kinds of maths, at least at this level.


well, i wouldn't go that far. Nrg2Nfinit is pretty damned smart.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
It's been the better part of a decade since I did physics at school, I'm about as likely to remember that as I am to remember this thread in 10 years time.


see look what happend when you stopped eating meat. You started to lose your memory. You're slowly turning into a lemur.


edit: hold on to your earlobes.


Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2009 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit




here i posted what i solved for



x=xo + vot (no acceleration in x component)

1)y=yo+vot +1/2 at^2
2)v=vo+at (you can use this for y component)
3)v^2=vo^2+ 2ay (you can use this for y component as well)


so for the first part i got the angle by using tvocos@=x

since i have x t and v i can solve for @ which gives 31 degrees.

From there i found my y componet by first solving for distance to zero velocity which gave 15.5 meters (v2=v02+2ay) where v=0 a -9.81.

I also solved for how much time that took using v=vo+at which gave me 1.78 seconds. I can subtract this from 5 to give me the remaining time that it will take to hit the ground from maximum height (zero velocity) 3.21.

I can use y=yo + 1/2at2 to solve for the distance to hit the ground from zero velocity. I subtract this number (50.7) from 15.5 and i get the height of the building to be 35.2.


This is all for the first stone (black) now all i know for the second stone (red) is that it lands 2 seconds after the first stone and it has the same velocity (35m/s).


Good luck


if it has the same velocity it has to have a more acute angle... your longest time of flight will be when theta = pi/4 rad


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2009 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
see look what happend when you stopped eating meat. You started to lose your memory. You're slowly turning into a lemur.


edit: hold on to your earlobes.


Me not eat meat?

I despise fruit and vegetables. I could probably count the pieces of fruit I've eaten this year on one hand.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
if it has the same velocity it has to have a more acute angle... your longest time of flight will be when theta = pi/4 rad


i would think a larger angle would give more flight time at the same velocity


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-18-2009 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Me not eat meat?

I despise fruit and vegetables. I could probably count the pieces of fruit I've eaten this year on one hand.


ok so help me out with my question then lol


Posted by Sunsnail on Aug-18-2009 01:10:


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