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All this talk about viruses
Ok i thought whats all the fuss about so i looked for a retailer for viruses thinking maybe Ill get one.
�1890 for a new Ti polar?
I take from the hype they are the very best right?
I could buy a whole new studio for that much is it worth all that money?
They're not the best (there is no best), but very versatile.
They are overrated. Coming from a person that owned one 3 times (virus b and c). 3rd time is now (virus kc). Yet I somehow keep buying one after selling the other. I might sell it again some day but I need a midi keyboard and this one is pretty nice.
They're fun too. 
The polar is always a tad more expensive since it's the special edition version of the Virus. Nice cool white.
And once you really get sucked into music production you'll notice 1800 is barely enough to get you started 
I attribute most of their popularity to the TI function. People like being able to treat it like a soft synth. Sonically, it does not impress me. I thought about getting one but bought a Radias instead.
Virus has to be the greatest all around synthesizer ever, it doesnt seem to excel at anything particular it just sounds great at everything it does, and it can do a lot of things.
I would go as far as saying that its THE most versatile synthesizer of all.
Nah. Korg's OASYS puts it to shame 
Viruses are very popular with trance producers, which may be one reason why you hear a lot about them around here. "Best" is a label I would hesitate to apply to any one synth.
I tend to agree with the other opinions here that it is very versatile, but also tries to be all things to all people. The oscillators are very dark, and nothing about this synth stands out for me from a sonic perspective (which should be one's primary concern when buying a piece of music gear).
I'd rather buy a piece of gear that excels at one thing, rather than a piece of gear that does many things but excels at none.
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| Originally posted by Subtle Virus has to be the greatest all around synthesizer ever, it doesnt seem to excel at anything particular it just sounds great at everything it does, and it can do a lot of things. I would go as far as saying that its THE most versatile synthesizer of all. |
I'm selling my virus TI keyboard if anyone wants it. I'm gonna go for the virus TI 2 rack and hopefully get an andromeda as the keyboard
I have had the first of the TI's an indigo II, and an indigo as well as a KC board... damm i know. And, from my experiences with the virus i think also they are very versatile (and good for trance) but one thing i would mention if your just after that particular type of sound i would go with the oldest version as its a hell of a lot cheaper and the sound banks are pretty much the same, they really havent changed that much at all IMO. forgive me if wrong!
I know have a KB keyboard, and this one i am keeping..lol 
don't get one if you have a mac.
i got a loan out to buy one, and tho they do sound amazing they have heaps of problems on a mac which nobody talked about before i bought the fkn thing...
latency issues, always drops parts etc... MEH.
now 5 years of paying off a struggling instrument 
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| Originally posted by sixofour.604 You have never used FM8. |
+1 for FM8
My suggestion is to learn how to properly use an external MIDI instrument with your DAW. Your options for this are basically Logic, Cubase, and Sonar. No others I can think of now will properly support an external instrument.
Learn how to use one on your DAW (switch DAWs if necessary) and get a Virus B if you really want a Virus. The TI's VSTi functionality works decently well, but is more of a pain in the ass than it's worth.
In case my avatar doesn't give it away, yes I love my Virus (Polar TI1). It's not perfect but it is the most versatile synth I have ever owned in terms of both sound and peformance, and I've owned a LOT of synths over the past 30 years. It's popularity is no accident. That's not to say that it's "the best", but if I had to choose one "desert island" synth, it'd be my Polar without a doubt just because of its versatility. But, if you take away the TI feature, I'd probably prefer my Nord 3 or possibly even Gladiator 2.
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| Originally posted by EgosXII don't get one if you have a mac. i got a loan out to buy one, and tho they do sound amazing they have heaps of problems on a mac which nobody talked about before i bought the fkn thing... latency issues, always drops parts etc... MEH. now 5 years of paying off a struggling instrument |
have they fixed the probably with the virus and the macs yet ? ? ?
I was one of the very first guys in my country to own a Virus back in 1998.
The Virus A (as it's called now) is probably the synth that made my career take off on its own.
I got to play a lot with the B and C versions at a friend's studio. They're amazing.
The success of the Virus series lies in its core synthesis structure, and probably also because they made the right decisions at the right time with the hardware: multi-out, external audio gating, a vocoder, etc... To sum it up, I'd say a perfect combination of vintage thoughts with grounbreaking/futuristic features.
Before the virus came out, it was really hard to find a subtractive synth that was capable of that much. You had a JP8000 limited in polyphony and character features (distortion etc...) but with the Unison.
Then you had the Yamaha AN1-X. A horrible piece of crap if you ask me.
Then you had the nord lead. Very good sounds but terribly limited features.
...And you had also the Novation nova series. The Supernova was seen as the Virus' strongest competitor. But the Novation people kinda missed a train with interesting features that never made it sound-wise for most people.
The Virus remains probably the best hardware subtractive synth line ever made, alongside with some of the latest analog revival heroes such as moog and DSi.
To be honest, in those days of Subtractive frenzy... I'd go for PCM synths. But that's anoher debate.
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| Originally posted by sixofour.604 Who the EF takes out a 5 year loan for a synth? |
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| Originally posted by Lolo ...And you had also the Novation nova series. The Supernova was seen as the Virus' strongest competitor. But the Novation people kinda missed a train with interesting features that never made it sound-wise for most people. |
Supernova is probably everything the virus should be in terms of sound. Only judging by samples people have sent me though...
I see so mixed opinions but generally its the best all rounder and its especially good for trance. I guess I would have to listen to one ( i probably have many times without knowing)
Still dont know If i want to part with all my first terms student loan for one
everyone has em dude, you would definately have heard the in a LOT of songs!
i think they're really good, even tho mine screws up a lot the versatility of the machine is really great
the sound is worth the price-tag imo
http://www.myspace.com/digitalquest
Listed to Digital Quest - Spirit of Life [not the vocal remix]..the AWESOME whine you hear is a virus.
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| Originally posted by Sonic_c I see so mixed opinions but generally its the best all rounder and its especially good for trance. I guess I would have to listen to one ( i probably have many times without knowing) Still dont know If i want to part with all my first terms student loan for one |
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| Originally posted by sixofour.604 http://www.myspace.com/digitalquest Listed to Digital Quest - Spirit of Life [not the vocal remix]..the AWESOME whine you hear is a virus. |
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