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I recently thought about the idea of how much society in general rests upon the notion of beauty or vanity as a narcissistic ideal. I'm not arguing that each person upholds this idea willfully, but that the idea rests in mind as a foundation to which our living is spurred.

How we as humans go to the extent of beautifying most things, such as food, i mean in a way that we present it before we eat it, or to how we observe ourselves (as we all do i'm sure). I am being very general here as well - particularly, that in all accounts of human behavior a valuable amount of this idea rests at the base of thought towards the outcome of outward creation.

Thus, that this idea of beauty extends into all areas of our everday lives through direct (consciously aware) and indirect (unconsciously etc) methods.

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The human beauty ideal is a congealment of two reproductive desires, youth and health. A young and healthy person is more likely to have healthy offspring. Symmetry, clear skin, and a face without extreme proportions represent health, and physical fitness represents youth. Therein you have "beauty" of human form.

Nature is beautiful, and Man evolved in nature. He watched the sun rise and set, noticed patterns in practically everything. Beauty is already built into our genetics and surroundings, and we base most things on it. Some people are just too shallow and form all their opinions on appearance, whether it be food, people, fashion, etc.

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Originally posted by lenazi http://www.emo-corner.com/

emotionally driven emo's = vanity!

Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The human beauty ideal is a congealment of two reproductive desires, youth and health. A young and healthy person is more likely to have healthy offspring. Symmetry, clear skin, and a face without extreme proportions represent health, and physical fitness represents youth. Therein you have "beauty" of human form.

I agree it stems from pre historic times as you mention Ziptnf which led us to the ideal as you suggest MrJive, but i feel that the true nature of what it was in its onset has been removed by the gradual nature of society into a narcissistic fassion and now driven by obsession. I would argue this obsession or desire is what spurred the initial idea sanctioned by grace, but its now out of control

Fat People 97

Ill tell you why im so damn angry, these shamu fat mother ******s that think they can go through life pieing out on every fucking morsel of food, then scrounge off the system, becuase their fucking organs have gone into retirement!!!! There sweaty deposits on every damn publib seat realy grinds my fucking gears. If you are so fucking wide that you require two airline seats then you should fucking pay for two or get of the mutha fucking plane, and if you are lucky enough to get a seat then dont steal my fucking arm rest with your fat bingo wings that just engulf my arm and encroach into my seating area. And yes i do want my fucking airline desert you fat fuck. Just becusase you move at a glacial pace, doesnt mean you can have a wheel chair or a mobility scooter. Mcdonalds does not fucking count as one of your five a day and neither does a footlong subway packed full of every fucking filling imaginable. Lay of the pies you fat shamu's XXXXXXXX

WHat do you guys think ...? are we going towards the perfection of beauty ?

I look at some Goya paintings and see that the beauty standards have changed drastically , I wonder if fat chicks will ever be hot again like in those days

There are places like Japan for example where the girls beauty mostly relies on how cute she looks more than how hot and sexy she appears , a lot of it has do to where you are at .

Lanazi hmm sorry to feel so angry. I mean i agree that a certain percent of the population fails to take heed of there own embellishment such as being fat. however, as we could all agree a certain percentage of them being fat full prey to physiological dysfunction due to various factors perhaps, as you suggest organ failure. but i do think the hole runs deeper then that. And, im not fat, or taking sides just presenting an opposing point of view.

What's wrong with that? We need beauty!

1. The only kind of existence we know is the embodied existence we experience throughout our lives;
   
2. This embodied existence takes place in a world we must act upon. We use our bodies as an instrument of engagement with this world;
   
3. In order to act upon the world, we need to interpret it;
   
4. Beauty represents desirability. What is beautiful tends to be more desirable than what isn't (though there's no objective standpoint from which you can tell what is(n't) beautiful);
   
5. Therefore, this pursuit of beauty is not only inevitable, it is essential to our very survival.
   
6. Beauty is necessary - Q.E.D.
   

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Originally posted by djhaziel WHat do you guys think ...? are we going towards the perfection of beauty ? I look at some Goya paintings and see that the beauty standards have changed drastically , I wonder if fat chicks will ever be hot again like in those days There are places like Japan for example where the girls beauty mostly relies on how cute she is more than how hot and sexy she looks, a lot of it has do to where you are at .

yeah i agree the concept of beauty is a shifting concept thats for sure as we all know its definition varies from person to person, but ultimately the foundation is the same i would argue due to its origin nature.

the perfection of beauty indeed but its moves forward consistently with us as we evolve i think.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The human beauty ideal is a congealment of two reproductive desires, youth and health. A young and healthy person is more likely to have healthy offspring. Symmetry, clear skin, and a face without extreme proportions represent health, and physical fitness represents youth. Therein you have "beauty" of human form.

its text book

fat people 78

I am angry about fat people right now because they are persistently annoying. They pant and froth at the mouth when the weather is above 75 degrees and whine and bitch about it the whole time RUINING YOUR VACATION, stinking like a sour milk jug and mildew infested wash rag.

Airplane issue!! SO embarrassing when you get moved from the emergency exit section of the plane because the fat bitch next to you is too fat for the seat and has to scream over to the stewardess to bring her a fricken seat belt extender, and then bitch about how the seats should be bigger the whole time. YOU'RE FUCKING FAT you should be happy that they didn't charge you for an extra seat!

I also despise it when fat women look at me with disgust, because I am tall and extremely thin. I can't help it that your fat ugly husband/blob is looking at me, you need to take that up with him and maybe have him bankroll a nice gym membership for you. Pant and froth on the treadmill piece of shit fat fuck.

And stop blaming it on a disease. What's your disease? Eating all fricken day? You make me sick.

Haha, where are you getting these?

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Originally posted by Lira What's wrong with that? We need beauty! The only kind of existence we know is the embodied existence we experience throughout our lives; This embodied existence takes place in a world we must act upon. We use our bodies as an instrument of engagement with this world; In order to act upon the world, we need to interpret it; Beauty represents desirability. What is beautiful tends to be more desirable than what isn't (though there's no objective standpoint from which you can tell what is(n't) beautiful); Therefore, this pursuit of beauty is not only inevitable, it is essential to our very survival. Beauty is necessary - Q.E.D. I'm in a hurry, sorry for not posting this in "proper" English

i agree with you to a great extent. I'm not denying the idea of beauty, my argument instead rests upon the premise that it is loosing its graceful origin to becoming a more narcissistic ideal (i'm argue this in a loosely described manner).

objectivism does play some role in this to an extent but this itself is loosley defined by the notion of subjective thought..! which is pretty much what your saying!

beauty = desire, oh how i desire beautiful things.

Fat People 57

I've had it with fat people! They are all lazy, my last boyfriend got out of work and out of shape and then he just became terrible. It got so disgusting having sex with him and soon he would just run out of breathe and give up. And he took breaks and tried to be all nice and cuddly but he was just laying on me and I couldn't breathe. The fat pig! He got these jelly rolls and all this flab around his neck and it was disgusting. If anyone wants to know what trying to date one of these guys is like trust me its tough. It was really bad we left a bar and he was drunk and he got in a fight with this shorter and leaner kid. He got his ass kicked the fat piece of shit and I was left there like what to do. The kid that kicked his ass was really hot. I could tell he looked really jacked too underneath his shirt and I bet he can fuck so much better. He ran off with his friends and i watched my fat BF struggle for breathe on the ground, and so I walked out on him. You're on your own you fat weak person.

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Originally posted by lenazi fat people 78 I am angry about fat people right now because they are persistently annoying. They pant and froth at the mouth when the weather is above 75 degrees and whine and bitch about it the whole time RUINING YOUR VACATION, stinking like a sour milk jug and mildew infested wash rag. Airplane issue!! SO embarrassing when you get moved from the emergency exit section of the plane because the fat bitch next to you is too fat for the seat and has to scream over to the stewardess to bring her a fricken seat belt extender, and then bitch about how the seats should be bigger the whole time. YOU'RE FUCKING FAT you should be happy that they didn't charge you for an extra seat! I also despise it when fat women look at me with disgust, because I am tall and extremely thin. I can't help it that your fat ugly husband/blob is looking at me, you need to take that up with him and maybe have him bankroll a nice gym membership for you. Pant and froth on the treadmill piece of shit fat fuck. And stop blaming it on a disease. What's your disease? Eating all fricken day? You make me sick.

disease is one factor, and yes eating is also one of them..lol. but im also getting at other physiological problems induced by modified, synthetic foods etc, additives, and shit like that. And im far from fat, i in fact body build and have been for ten years.

and, i agree the majority of fatties are based on lack of motivation, lifestyle, etc etc

seat belt extender do they have those...?

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Originally posted by enydo Haha, where are you getting these?

http://www.angry.net/people/f/fat_people.htm

fat people 5

I'm angry at fat people who come to my home and ruin my furniture.One fat-assed whore sat on my wooden glider rocker and now it has a permanent squeak! Thanks alot jelly belly Kelly. I can understand why the airlines charge your big bertha asses for two seats,you ruin thecushions forever.Someone needs to start a BIG ASS FURNITURE business.Next time one of you fat ass whores waddles up to my door all out of breath,I'm gonna yell sorry we gave at the food bank.These bitches actually thinkthey can lean up against my kitchen counter,whoah there Shamu, you're wrecking my fucking house.You fuck up my toilet seats and use half a roll of toilet paper to wipe that ass thats as wide as the spread of an eagles wings.And I don't ever wanna hear "I really dont eat that much",mother ****** you ate my husbands dinner,a whole fuckin chicken as a snack.Then at Thankgiving you have the nerve to burst out crying because somebody says do we have any rolls and everyone looks at you.Then you wear a bikini and have the nerve to jump in our swimming pool,bitch we paid for the water you just sloshed all over the neighborhood and our 8 foot deep pool is now 5 foot deep.Fat people really piss me off, I hope you see this Kelly!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles http://www.angry.net/people/f/fat_people.htm

LOL

http://www.angry.net/people/m/myself.htm

lol

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Originally posted by lenazi Fat People 97 Ill tell you why im so damn angry, these shamu fat mother ******s that think they can go through life pieing out on every fucking morsel of food, then scrounge off the system, becuase their fucking organs have gone into retirement!!!! There sweaty deposits on every damn publib seat realy grinds my fucking gears. If you are so fucking wide that you require two airline seats then you should fucking pay for two or get of the mutha fucking plane, and if you are lucky enough to get a seat then dont steal my fucking arm rest with your fat bingo wings that just engulf my arm and encroach into my seating area. And yes i do want my fucking airline desert you fat fuck. Just becusase you move at a glacial pace, doesnt mean you can have a wheel chair or a mobility scooter. Mcdonalds does not fucking count as one of your five a day and neither does a footlong subway packed full of every fucking filling imaginable. Lay of the pies you fat shamu's XXXXXXXX

I love you

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Originally posted by winston I love you

so sweet

you're so vain...

come on CORe, you know the words.

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