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Posted by Renzo on Aug-26-2009 05:33:

Ted Kennedy - dead at 77

He's died of brain cancer. RIP.






http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TedK...tory?id=6692022


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-26-2009 05:34:

RIP.

I am actually a little teary eyed...


Thats the bleeding heart liberal in me...


Posted by Krypton on Aug-26-2009 05:37:

RIP the great compromiser. Seems like this country is more divided than ever.


Posted by winston on Aug-26-2009 05:47:

R.I.P


Posted by WhooCares on Aug-26-2009 05:49:

SAD NEWS

R.I.P Ol' chap


Posted by iTranscendence on Aug-26-2009 05:58:

We'll miss you John Madden.


Posted by Capitalizt on Aug-26-2009 06:01:

Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment on the senator's death


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment on the senator's death



Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-26-2009 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment on the senator's death



Now is not the time for that mate.


Posted by Capitalizt on Aug-26-2009 06:05:

just stating a fact..sry.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 06:23:

Lots of people die every day... and I'd say the same thing if a Republican senator just died that none of us know and has not legitimatelly affected any of us in any positive way: RIP out of respect, but who (amongst us) really gives a shit?


Posted by Clovis on Aug-26-2009 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
and I'd say the same thing if a Republican senator just died that none of us know and has not legitimatelly affected any of us in any positive way:


Thats some incredible ignorance right there buddy.

Go look up some of the legislation that bears his imprint. He helped change this country in many many ways for the better.

Extract from LAtimes obiturary just posted:

quote:
Though his most cherished legislative goal of universal health insurance eluded him, Kennedy helped write a number of laws that ranged from making it easier for workers who change or lose jobs to keep their health insurance, to giving 18-year-olds the right to vote, to deregulating the airlines, which helped lower airfares.

He several times spearheaded legislation to raise the minimum wage and, in the early 1970s, wrote the law creating Meals on Wheels, which delivers meals to seniors. He was influential in reforming immigration laws and in expanding Head Start programs.

In 1982, he helped gain an extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, and he was a principal sponsor of the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which negated Supreme Court decisions that made it more difficult for minorities to win lawsuits charging job discrimination by employers. In 1990, he worked with then-Sen. Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) to gain passage of the landmark Americans With Disabilities Act giving disabled Americans greater access to employment, among other things. That same year, he was author of the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act providing funds for community healthcare and support services.

And every major education law passed since the 1960s bears Kennedy's imprint, according to the National Education Assn., which gave Kennedy its highest award in 2000.


Personally I don't hold him in any sort of high regard given the Mary Jo Kopechne incident, but he did do a lot for this country in the senate.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 06:45:

I'm down with the Americans with Disabilities Act... that's cool. But I can't get over 2 things:

1) Both sides of my family for decades in Massachusetts being taxed out the butthole thanks to Teddy.

2) The memos that were uncovered on May 14th, 2003 showing how, between 1980-1983 he directed fellow senator John Tunney, throuh Tunney's firm, to meet with KGB General Secretary Yuri Andropov and develop a strategy together on the down-low that would undermine Reagan's Cold War foreign policy and re-election efforts. Andropov died so it never ended up working out... but that shit is unforgivable.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-26-2009 06:49:

I'm just pointing out why people do and probably should care somewhat.

Like I said, not a huge fan of him, but he accomplished quite a bit.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-26-2009 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
I'm down with the Americans with Disabilities Act... that's cool. But I can't get over 2 things:

1) Both sides of my family for decades in Massachusetts being taxed out the butthole thanks to Teddy.



Don't be selfish.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-26-2009 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Don't be selfish.


Or move to Texas/Nebraska etc


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I'm just pointing out why people do and probably should care somewhat.

Like I said, not a huge fan of him, but he accomplished quite a bit.



werd... I hear ya man.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Or move to Texas/Nebraska etc


Taxes in NC aren't that bad when considering some of the alternatives; way better than up in New England. Property taxes that cost me about $900 per year would run me about $4500 up there for the same size property. It's a bummer man


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-26-2009 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Taxes in NC aren't that bad when considering some of the alternatives; way better than up in New England. Property taxes that cost me about $900 per year would run me about $4500 up there for the same size property. It's a bummer man




People living inside their means and helping out others by paying more money in taxes?


Sounds good to me.

I would gladly give up 50, even 75% of my paycheck if I knew I would receive positive benefits for me and my community.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-26-2009 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
People living inside their means and helping out others by paying more money in taxes?


Sounds good to me.

I would gladly give up 50, even 75% of my paycheck if I knew I would receive positive benefits for me and my community.


Helping others is un-American. You got boot straps, use em. Born into poverty? Go fuck yourself. Inner city? Ask someone who gives a shit. Drug addict? Go die somewhere I can't see you. I earned all 750,000 of this salary by nailing those board meetings, I can't afford another 2k in taxes, need to buy that new plasma screen for my 5 year old, Conner, to play his PS3 on. Which will create jobs and help the people making minimum wage at BestBuy. I think.

USA! USA!


Posted by Clovis on Aug-26-2009 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Helping others is un-American. You got boot straps, use em. Born into poverty? Go fuck yourself. Inner city? Ask someone who gives a shit. Drug addict? Go die somewhere I can't see you. I earned all 750,000 of this salary by nailing those board meetings, I can't afford another 2k in taxes, need to buy that new plasma screen for my 5 year old, Conner, to play his PS3 on. Which will create jobs and help the people making minimum wage at BestBuy. I think.

USA! USA!



I really fucking crack myself up sometimes.


Posted by WhooCares on Aug-26-2009 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Don't be selfish.



lol that part reminded me of this...
John Stewart vs Misinformed Betsy McCaughey on health care reform..
part @ 1:58....


Posted by iTranscendence on Aug-26-2009 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
People living inside their means and helping out others by paying more money in taxes?


Sounds good to me.

I would gladly give up 50, even 75% of my paycheck if I knew I would receive positive benefits for me and my community.


You're British, so don't take this personally, but your opinion doesn't mean shit to us on a subject like this. Taxes are the whole reason we fought you for our independence in the first place.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-26-2009 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
need to buy that new plasma screen for my 5 year old, Conner, to play his PS3 on.


that shit actually is pretty funny. "Conner". LOL!


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-26-2009 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by iTranscendence
You're British, so don't take this personally, but your opinion doesn't mean shit to us on a subject like this. Taxes are the whole reason we fought you for our independence in the first place.



I've never been to the UK in my entire life, I was born and raised in Washington State and I still live here.


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