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Posted by T_ALI on Aug-28-2009 01:22:

Urban and Electronic music coming together???

So many DJs/artists are doing this now. Personally, I think it sucks. What do you guys think?

ex.

quote:
Hot off the press, Ti�sto has collaborated with Three 6 Mafia on a track for their new record 'Laws Of Power' which is out later this year. The track will also feature Sean Kingston and Flo Rida.
lol


etc...


Posted by haqq on Aug-28-2009 01:32:

Music is music, the world has one thing in common and that's music. I don't see anything wrong with any collaboration of any genre.

Hell throw Gypsey Kings with Bob Sinclar...

The world is already divided by races, lets not divide it by music now too.

I respect Tiesto for this, maybe that's the background to where he got the name for his label "Musical Freedom"


Posted by Nobbie Q on Aug-28-2009 02:13:

I like both genres, but I like electronica more. I've always wondered what would happen if both genres crossed each other. It's finally happening now and the results are OKAY. The way hip hop was going last year with the autotune nonsense, it was slowly becoming more and more electronic. "when love takes over" is such a guilty pleasure track that you can't help but like it, even fully knowing that it's a Clocks/Speed of Sound ripoff from Coldplay.

I can see how others could have problems with it as the songs right now are aren't credible and are pretty "obvious" but this could bring more ppl into underground dance, just like Trance does.


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 02:22:

I guess Euros & Americans are trying to catch up to what I have been doing for awhile now

I guess some Canadian djs are behind the times?


Posted by Nobbie Q on Aug-28-2009 02:23:

OH SHIT, NICK T LIVES


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Aug-28-2009 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
These guys are trying to catch up to what I been doing for awhile now

I guess Euros & Americans are trying to catch up to what I have been doing

I guess some Canadian djs are behind the times?


Hahaha Ya, Tiesto and all those big DJs are definitely looking to you for inspiration.


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
OH SHIT, NICK T LIVES


I live for threads like this, makes me feel nice inside to know how far ahead I am thinking musically right up there with the biggest djs in the world

Maybe the Canadian djs who make fun of my music should take notes

djs should not dont follow trends they should try to create them

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Hahaha Ya, Tiesto and all those big DJs are definitely looking to you for inspiration.


why would that be so funny, I have been posting my idea of this for how long?

You have to admit I have been doing this b4 them right?


Posted by Geoffb3 on Aug-28-2009 02:48:

Haha ... oh this thread makes me laugh already ....


Posted by Skipper on Aug-28-2009 02:51:

Urban music has been remixed in the gay clubs for ages.
You're all just pissey b/c it's Tiesto.


Posted by kotsy on Aug-28-2009 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Music is music


incorrect


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 03:02:

Most of these edm & urban artist that will do this kind of production/ music will fail because they lack the knowledge of each other music they will do it as a gimmick or for a cheque & not from there hearts.

I should Have made this the last part of my thread but my big secret thread is even bigger then Tiesto agreeing with my idea of where music is going


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-28-2009 03:08:

Dude, urban and electronic music have been in bed FOREVER. Some of the newer stuff is pretty awesome, too:








And let's not forget A-Trak's insane dance floor bomb (although I'm not sure if you can fairly call this a "track"):




Posted by DigiNut on Aug-28-2009 03:13:

Oh yeah, by the way...

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Hell throw Gypsey Kings with Bob Sinclar...


Guaranteed zero chance of ever hearing it in any club, but Bob Sinclar's "Sound of Freedom" brings back some amazing memories for me!


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut


none of thoose songs are really urban(are people on here scared to say black or something?)

this is one of the better ones that comined urban(black)music with electronic (white) music


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-28-2009 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
none of thoose songs are really urban(are people on here scared to say black or something?)

No shit. They're hybrids or remixes of hip hop (I couldn't find the right remix of the 2nd one, I picked the closest one I could find).

Also the Malpractice remix of T-Pain's "Low", I couldn't find that one on Youtube anywhere.

Your example is fine too, but it's more urban than electronic and it's pretty dated.

Edit: And out of something like 50,000 vids of Afrika you managed to pick the one with the worst possible sound quality, lol.


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 03:25:

other than rapping there is nothing urban about the songs you posted digi

Planet Rock also contains more edm elements than urban imo. most people call Planet rock a dance song not a hip hop song

Even tho its a old song I dont think its dated it still sounds good


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Aug-28-2009 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
why would that be so funny, I have been posting my idea of this for how long?

You have to admit I have been doing this b4 them right?


If telling yourself that you were the first to mix electronic music with rap music makes you happy. Then go for it!


Posted by E2EK1EL on Aug-28-2009 03:30:

Let's get ILL!

Serious note: If you've noticed ... recent RnB has some trancey synths and singing / lyrics repeats that they're using now. Its abit shocking but, thats the new thing. First heard it at a house party on NYE and I was shaking my head.


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-28-2009 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
other than rapping there is nothing urban about the songs you posted digi

WTF? This has to be one of the most retarded comments I've ever read (aside from everything else by ***** I guess).

How do you even reply to something like this?

I guess it upsets you to find out that there are producers out there doing professionally what you've been chugging away at for years thinking you were some kind of pioneer. And that they're actually able to make decent hybrid tracks with mainstream appeal.

A lot of us here were or still are into hip hop or the urban scene. We aren't idiots. I'm pretty sure your knee-jerk reaction is a result of you simply not being used to electronic music, so anything that sounds even a little bit on the electronic side can't possibly be urban. This isn't 1982 anymore dude, musical tastes have changed.

You can have urban with electronic elements, or electronic music with urban elements, or something closer to the middle - it's all pretty similar.


Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
If telling yourself that you were the first to mix electronic music with rap music makes you happy. Then go for it!


why dont you want to give me any credit for anything I do or accomplish? why must you put me down & make a mockery of me & what I do?

It is True I mix different styles of music Trance is 1 of them

no one was fusing it really they might have used other edm songs(house dance freestyle etc) but not Trance


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-28-2009 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
Trance Music(not edm)
Hip Hop(not urban or rap)

OK, again, WTF?

Trance is EDM. Hip hop is urban. In both cases the latter term refers to a wide range of music of which the former term is one subgenre.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Aug-28-2009 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by *****
why dont you want to give me any credit for anything I do or accomplish? why must you put me down & make a mockery of me & what I do?

It is True I use Trance Music(not edm) & mix it with Hip Hop(not urban or rap)

no one was fusing them really they might have used all edm songs (house dance etc) but not Trance


I'd like you to show me proof that absolutely NO ONE has EVER mixed trance music with hip hop...EVER. Good luck with that.


Posted by activate on Aug-28-2009 03:44:

nothing new... some huge tunes way back when.. Jungle Brothers "I'll house ya".. that Jason Nevins Remix of RUN DMC "It's like that"


Posted by MarkT on Aug-28-2009 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Urban music has been remixed in the gay clubs for ages.
You're all just pissey b/c it's Tiesto.


lol...so true.

settle down *****...you're not pioneering a scene.

Afrika Bambaataa. turntables, synth vocal effect, early breakbeat...~25 years ago.


Afrika Bambaataa - Planet Rock
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Posted by NickT on Aug-28-2009 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
there are producers out there doing professionally what you've been chugging away at for years thinking you were some kind of pioneer.


that is a definition of a pioneer dude someone who does something before others do. professional in musical terms is a sellout someone who does somethign for money or because its in

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
A lot of us here were or still are into hip hop or the urban scene. We aren't idiots


I never implied you were idiots at all, but if you keep up & follow or appreciate hip hop ypou would never call it urban music

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm pretty sure your knee-jerk reaction is a result of you simply not being used to electronic music, so anything that sounds even a little bit on the electronic side can't possibly be urban.


just because I play nice & stupid with you guys on this board doesnt mean you should question my knowledge of music I might know just as much as you about music

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Hip hop is urban.


Urban is the politcally correct term for Black to me Urban means a large city Trance music technically is made in large cities so it should be considered urban but its not because its made by mostly white people

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Trance is EDM


Once trance started falling off in popularity it became EDM

Trance Music is a genre on its own

edm is a nice way of saying white music


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