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Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 06:39:

What program is the best for auto beatmatching for someone that does not know how to?

Hey guys im just starting out djing and want to sound pro at beatmatching. I heard you can purchase programs that will automatically beatmatch for you so you dont have to learn it and will sound professional. What are some of the best programs that do this?


Posted by enydo on Aug-28-2009 06:48:

Adobe Photoshop


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-28-2009 07:12:

Traktor.

Sad, this is how a lot of people are starting off these days. Beatmatching is probably the smallest part of mixing, but come on...do your time.

Why are you trying to sound like something you're not?


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 07:48:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Traktor.

Sad, this is how a lot of people are starting off these days. Beatmatching is probably the smallest part of mixing, but come on...do your time.

Why are you trying to sound like something you're not?


they have software to do auto beatmatch, so I dont see the point in learning it.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-28-2009 08:45:

People like you should not be allowed anywhere near DJ'ing equipment.


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-28-2009 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
People like you should not be allowed anywhere near DJ'ing equipment.


seriously

i've put in 10 years of sweat and tinnitus, deal with it or jog on


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-28-2009 09:58:

DUDE! You really should learn the ropes and then if you still want to switch, do so. The statement you just made was disgusting and the most lazy thing i've ever read. Get Tiesto's number i'm sure you too would be perfect for each other! He can tell you how to press play on a set in a stadium

Buy some cdjs; learn to beatmatch (it will take you weeks if you're dedicated) and then you'll realize how simple it was and how dumb the post you just made was.


Posted by n3lly on Aug-28-2009 10:46:

Let him get Traktor.

He'll still suck ass. Wont know what he's doing.

Good luck getting all your tracks beatgridded perfectly so they're all 'in time'.

Your set is going to sound like ass and I can guarantee that. You wont understand half the stuff you learn from trying to beatmatch.

Not only that but when you rock up to a setup that only has cdj's you'll have to say sorry i don't beatmatch i just click and press buttons.

But if I'm honest I don't hold it against you, at least you have the balls to just come out and say it. Why make life more difficult on yourself if you don't have to.

End of the day if you don't want to you don't have to.

Tony, your comment has no relevance to this guys question.
You've done it for 10 years as there was no other way when you started. The fact of the matter is he doesn't have to deal with it. So why should he?

Anyway, I still think you should learn the basics even if you're not very good at them they give you a good foundation. But suit yourself

nelly


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-28-2009 11:30:

DJ Hero is coming out soon. That's right up your alley.


Posted by djsaekone on Aug-28-2009 13:25:

quote:
Mr.Mystery DJ Hero is coming out soon. That's right up your alley.


lol


Posted by lenazi on Aug-28-2009 16:42:

learning to beatmatch will help you mix better and learn song structures without needing a waveform(which can be deceiving). After you learn to beatmatch you will see that you can mix better (see: flow) even if you decide to use a program that does it for you.

Stop putting the pussy on the pedestal, beatmatching is retardedly easy once you "get it". You won't be good at anything unless you practice, so just learn and then go the "easy way" after.


Posted by Seppuku on Aug-28-2009 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
Stop putting the pussy on the pedestal


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
seriously

i've put in 10 years of sweat and tinnitus, deal with it or jog on


it took you 10 years to learn how to beatmatch... guess what its not important anymore. They made software to replicate beatmatching with the press of 1 button. I guess you would be the fool since it took you so long to "master" beatmatching while I can just get a program and with the press of 1 button, it equals to all your 10 years of sweat and tiinnitus.


Posted by Waterproofpaper on Aug-28-2009 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by belagio11
they have software to do auto beatmatch, so I dont see the point in learning it.


They also have machines that help you breathe.. whats the point in doing it yourself?


Posted by Waterproofpaper on Aug-28-2009 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by belagio11
it took you 10 years to learn how to beatmatch... guess what its not important anymore. They made software to replicate beatmatching with the press of 1 button. I guess you would be the fool since it took you so long to "master" beatmatching while I can just get a program and with the press of 1 button, it equals to all your 10 years of sweat and tiinnitus.


Then why dont you save your money and buy an ipod and use their itunes DJ. That will not only save you money, but a lot of heartache too.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Let him get Traktor.

He'll still suck ass. Wont know what he's doing.

Good luck getting all your tracks beatgridded perfectly so they're all 'in time'.

Your set is going to sound like ass and I can guarantee that. You wont understand half the stuff you learn from trying to beatmatch.

Not only that but when you rock up to a setup that only has cdj's you'll have to say sorry i don't beatmatch i just click and press buttons.

But if I'm honest I don't hold it against you, at least you have the balls to just come out and say it. Why make life more difficult on yourself if you don't have to.

End of the day if you don't want to you don't have to.

Tony, your comment has no relevance to this guys question.
You've done it for 10 years as there was no other way when you started. The fact of the matter is he doesn't have to deal with it. So why should he?

Anyway, I still think you should learn the basics even if you're not very good at them they give you a good foundation. But suit yourself

nelly



I dont need to play on cdjs at live gigs. A lot of people use laptops for the same very reason it is so easy to beatmatch, All I have to do is bring my laptop, select a few good tracks and use the program to do everything... very simple.

People here are just pissed they had to "learn" beatmatching for 10+ years to master it when I can just get a simple program and press 1 button that will take the place of 10 years of practice. Like you said, why make it more difficult? Don't get pissed because you didnt wait for software to come out and took the long way to get things done, that is your own stupidity.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Waterproofpaper
They also have machines that help you breathe.. whats the point in doing it yourself?


Breathing compared to beatmatching? nice comparison genious.


Posted by i got big pants on Aug-28-2009 19:26:

although beatmatching may be a waste of time with software being able to do it for you, but what happens when your at a gig and your computer craps out and stops working? obviously you'll try and trouble shoot your computer, but within that time no music will be playing at all? who's to say that your computer is completely toast? Are you just going to pack up and go home?

I'm almost positive that'll do wonders for your dj'ing career if you plan on having one.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Waterproofpaper
Then why dont you save your money and buy an ipod and use their itunes DJ. That will not only save you money, but a lot of heartache too.


1) does it have auto beatmatch sync?
2) it doesnt look professional. If I had a laptop, noone can really tell if it is a pro setup or amateur because a lot of big djs now use laptops. All I need is just a software to do the hard part for me and auto beatmatch and it is really easy to rock the crowd like a veteran dj when really I have just started djing.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
although beatmatching may be a waste of time with software being able to do it for you, but what happens when your at a gig and your computer craps out and stops working? obviously you'll try and trouble shoot your computer, but within that time no music will be playing at all? who's to say that your computer is completely toast? Are you just going to pack up and go home?

I'm almost positive that'll do wonders for your dj'ing career if you plan on having one.


well this is a possibilty, but I havent seen a laptop crash on a big dj yet


Posted by Waterproofpaper on Aug-28-2009 19:28:

Lol.. if youve ever been to a gig, no they dont have magic machines that hook up to your laptop and automatically work, they have turntables and CDJs that accompany the DVS for control. If you live in the US then they (clubs) mostly use serato, which does not automatically beatmatch for you. I use traktor and some tracks arent scanned correctly so they are given the wrong BPM. What do you do then? Pray to lord xenu?


Posted by Waterproofpaper on Aug-28-2009 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by belagio11
Breathing compared to beatmatching? nice comparison genious.


Metaphors dont really sink in to your "genious" head do they?


Posted by Waterproofpaper on Aug-28-2009 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by belagio11
1) does it have auto beatmatch sync?
2) it doesnt look professional. If I had a laptop, noone can really tell if it is a pro setup or amateur because a lot of big djs now use laptops. All I need is just a software to do the hard part for me and auto beatmatch and it is really easy to rock the crowd like a veteran dj when really I have just started djing.


It also doesnt look professional standing there doing nothing while music is mixed for you automatically. Make it easy and get a really expensive CD player and play someone elses prerecorded mix, youre pretty much doing the same thing except you wont be wasting as much money.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Waterproofpaper
Metaphors dont really sink in to your "genious" head do they?


Your just pissed off you had to take the time to learn beatmatching while people who start out now can skip all of that and dont even need to learn it.

People use breathing machines when they are about to die and have no choice, either they get old and sick or they need life support etc.

New djs use software that has auto beatmatch not because they have no choice... but because they can skip the process of learning how to beatmatch which takes time to learn and already sound good right away. Therefore your comparison sucks.


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-28-2009 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Waterproofpaper
It also doesnt look professional standing there doing nothing while music is mixed for you automatically. Make it easy and get a really expensive CD player and play someone elses prerecorded mix, youre pretty much doing the same thing except you wont be wasting as much money.


if i play someone elses prerecorded mix i could get caught, what if that person who did the mix was on the dance floor? Also with a laptop, it is harder to tell and people just assume the dj is a pro.


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