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Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:30:

Ban The Catholic School Kilt? Sure why not, we ban everything else!

quote:
Anna Mehler Paperny

From Friday's Globe and Mail Last updated on Monday, Aug. 31, 2009 10:22AM EDT

Call it a flap over fabric � or lack thereof.

Scandalized by shrinking skirts among its female student body, a Catholic high school in Mississauga is going to great lengths to ensure the school's code of modesty is covered.

Kilts, whose varying lengths frustrated policing teachers as skirts were furtively rolled up or subject to guerrilla hemming, are henceforth banned from the uniform altogether.

� The issue is primarily one of morality and modesty. �� Bruce Campbell

Under old uniform policy, Philip Pocock Secondary School's female students could choose between black slacks and a plaid kilt meant to reach the knee. But starting next month, pants are the order of the day.

Philip Pocock Principal Henry Tyndorf declined to comment, referring questions to Dufferin Peele Catholic District School Board communications manager Bruce Campbell.

�The issue is primarily one of morality and modesty: Girls are just wearing the kilts way too short and it's difficult to enforce,� he said. �You see a student and you have to approach them and say, �You know, your uniform is too short.' ... It's just really difficult to enforce, and there's way too much time involved.

�We're in the business of educating kids.�

Mr. Campbell said there are no statistics kept on how many students have been caught breaking the skirt-length rules, or how much time teachers spend policing them.

He said of the district's 25 Catholic schools, all but six have phased out their kilts, largely for the same reason: Students were continually flouting length rules, creating headaches for teachers charged with monitoring them.

So far, he said, the school has only received three calls from parents upset with the change.

�It's been very minor in terms of negative response. ... It's pretty much accepted as part of the trend.�

Fatima Resendes, mother of a Grade 10 student, said she understands concerns about lengths, but the problem is with the skirts themselves.

�I consider the kilt my daughter has short � that's how I got it from the supplier,� she said, adding that the skirts come with shorts so aren't as revealing as their lengths suggest.

�There's always a handful of girls that abuse the system, but not the majority.�

But Ms. Resendes said what really upsets her is that she doesn't feel parents were properly consulted: Now the two $80 skirts she bought when her daughter entered Grade 9 last year are effectively useless, she said.

�When I signed the application for the school, it was accepted, they cashed my cheque and they told me I needed a uniform and I purchased a uniform that was requested. I feel that was a contract and they have arbitrarily broken that,� she said. �Now I'm going to have to go out and buy pants.�

Many parents and students, she said, are still in the dark as to the new uniform policy, which is in effect when school starts in September.

�I can guarantee that there's going to be quite a number of girls in kilts on the first day of school.�


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:31:

And of course this is only happening in the GTA. a big WTF???

I miss high school really for this reason only LOL


Posted by chinamon on Aug-31-2009 17:34:

the kilt was the best part about high school.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:36:

im glad i grew up when i did... before all the bans and before the internet was such a dominant influence. I think our generation was the last generation of truly unbridled fun.

I feel bad for todays high school and university students and how they are forced to think and act like a 40 year old.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-31-2009 17:38:

Dunno

I got suspended a few times when my skirt didn't reach the knee (I went to private school), we didn't have a pants option all together

we were also not allowed to roll up sleeves on our winter shirts
no blazer? off home you go!

don't see a problem with this!


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-31-2009 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I got suspended a few times when my skirt didn't reach the knee (I went to private school), we didn't have a pants option all together

we were also not allowed to roll up sleeves on our winter shirts
no blazer? off home you go!

don't see a problem with this!


if you were a horny teenage boy you would see the problem with this.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I got suspended a few times when my skirt didn't reach the knee (I went to private school), we didn't have a pants option all together

we were also not allowed to roll up sleeves on our winter shirts
no blazer? off home you go!

don't see a problem with this!


So how did we survive all these years with a kilt? Even through times when we were supposedly more conservative thinking than we are now?

I think teachers are just too lazy to enforce the rules. Thats really what it comes down to. Easier to ban than to keep a few unruly kids in line. Sadly banning things has become a tool of convenience in too many cases.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-31-2009 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
if you were a horny teenage boy you would see the problem with this.


lol
I guess Jay is horny today


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
lol
I guess Jay is horny today


i take that as a compliment! LOL


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
if you were a horny teenage boy you would see the problem with this.


True... those lunch hours at the park back in the day with my catholic school gf wouldnt have been the same if black slacks were involved LOL


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-31-2009 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
So how did we survive all these years with a kilt? Even through times when we were supposedly more conservative thinking than we are now?

I think teachers are just too lazy to enforce the rules. Thats really what it comes down to. Easier to ban than to keep a few unruly kids in line. Sadly banning things has become a tool of convenience in too many cases.


dude few unruly kids? lol
how about an entire grade 9 female population?

a lot of things were BANNED in my school - jewellery, nail polish, long nails, socks with prints, the list can go on

it's one of the "perks" of being in a private school


Posted by plaxx on Aug-31-2009 17:45:

In related news, the Toronto District School Board has received resignations from male teachers over the age of 50. When contacted, pedobear refused to comment.


Posted by Dior Homme on Aug-31-2009 17:46:

Pervert's Row FTW!


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
dude few unruly kids? lol
how about an entire grade 9 female population?

a lot of things were BANNED in my school - jewellery, nail polish, long nails, socks with prints, the list can go on

it's one of the "perks" of being in a private school


this is public school we are talking about. Private schools have always had weird rules depending on the school. But when its private its your choice to be there (well parents but still)

My point is everything you can think of is being banned and im sick of it.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-31-2009 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
this is public school we are talking about. Private schools have always had weird rules depending on the school. But when its private its your choice to be there (well parents but still)

My point is everything you can think of is being banned and im sick of it.


doesn't matter - any school with mandatory uniform rules can up those rules as much they want
one thing if the school didn't have any uniform..


Posted by Prometheus Xex on Aug-31-2009 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
In related news, the Toronto District School Board has received resignations from male teachers over the age of 50. When contacted, pedobear refused to comment.



Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-31-2009 17:50:

This thread is worthless without pics


Posted by devnull on Aug-31-2009 17:50:

why not just get rid of the uniforms altogether?!


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 17:52:

Better yet its time to change the constitution and get rid of our obligation to catholic schools with tax payers money.


Posted by chinamon on Aug-31-2009 17:54:

this thread makes me want to hang out at my old high school today...

shit.. it is still summer holidays.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-31-2009 17:55:

as much as I bitched back in the day, uniform has made my life much easier back in school - no painful outfit decisions on daily basis probably saved a fortune on clothes shopping too


Posted by Sentinal on Aug-31-2009 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
This thread is worthless without pics


There you go AJ, just for you pal!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Aug-31-2009 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Better yet its time to change the constitution and get rid of our obligation to catholic schools with tax payers money.


While I agree with you... ain't no-one gots the ballz to re-open the constitution debate right now.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-31-2009 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
While I agree with you... ain't no-one gots the ballz to re-open the constitution debate right now.


true... no ones even got the political nuts to build a road never mind this.


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-31-2009 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Sentinal
There you go AJ, just for you pal!





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