"underground term" or complete bullshit?

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Posted by Redd on Sep-01-2009 08:22:

That worked well

Quoted from someone calling himself a dj and claiming he also produces: "no no..dj use is a phrase and stamp we dj's use for certain tracks...an underground slang term..."

We are talking about a Richard Durand remix of a track. I don't like it, he and everyone else is going on and on about how it's made for a club and not "listening". Also that it's meant for DJ use only, whatever the fuck that means.

So, other than the tool mixes I've seen of certain tracks, what is he talking about here? He had me going until he brought the UNDAGROUND slang term into play.

Posted by PutBoy on Sep-01-2009 10:00:

I don't get it...

Posted by Redd on Sep-01-2009 10:44:

Sorry, I'll try to make it clearer:

Some guy claims there is a "underground slang term" used by DJs only being "DJ use". This is what he wrote earlier:

"dude..your lucky to be even hearing this on here...this is strictly for dj use...your lucky that youtube exists to be hearing this gem..otherwise..youll only hear this..ehem...LIVE!!!..or on a live radio show mix!!.."

So he is pretty much claiming a track is strictly for "dj use". Which he then defines as above. I call bullshit, but since I'm no "underground dj" I really can't. I bet you can though

Posted by Fledz on Sep-01-2009 10:59:

Well some producers make tracks specifically for a club but I think that limits your creativity really as you absolutely must make it pumping then.

Not sure about this underground slang though. Sounds like a load of wank to me.

Posted by Redd on Sep-01-2009 11:07:

Yes I've explained to him about the club mixes etc. And I also suspect him being full of it.

Arguing on the internet makes me a little more retarded every time.

Posted by Demoted on Sep-01-2009 11:09:

*the sound of thirty seagulls being raped and then dying loudly*

"this sounds awful"

"you better be thankful for the interscapes because without it you would've never even heard this. You think fuckers just film this shit all the time?"

"thanks, this sounds much better now in that perspective."

Posted by Fledz on Sep-01-2009 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
Arguing on the internet makes me a little more retarded every time.
It's ok. I've been in the minus for years

Posted by i got big pants on Sep-01-2009 15:43:

PROMO?

Posted by Redd on Sep-01-2009 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
PROMO?

Not at all, it's sold digitally all over the place, and it has been for like 5 months. I did inform him of this

Posted by Jarvmeister on Sep-01-2009 17:02:

The bloke sounds like a right pecker.

Ignore him.

Posted by Stu Cox on Sep-01-2009 22:42:

There are certainly tracks that really work in a club stuffed full of people and are a bit boring on your hi-fi, but when they work they work incredibly well. There are also tracks that work better in big rooms than small rooms and vice versa, tracks that work better in brightly lit rooms than darker ones and so on.

That said, remembering a time when you had it large to a particular tune can make you suddenly love listening to it at home when maybe you didn't like before.

"DJ use only" used to be written on a lot of promos (i.e. saying "you should really only have this if you're using it to promote the record"), or on bootleg mashups/remixes (i.e. saying "I just made this for a bit of fun in the club, don't tell too many people and don't shop me for it!")

But I think generally when people write tracks specifically for clubs, they just say "I wrote it for clubs" rather than "it's for DJ use ONLY!"

As a side note, you could probably argue that just about all 12" versions are "for DJ use"...

It might be a bit more common in some circles than others, but either way slap your mate with a trout and tell him he's a tosser.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Sep-01-2009 23:43:

Yeah, back in the day (Late 80s and 90s) it was a way to describe a test pressing i.e. pre promo, basically so DJs could test it in a club environment and the track could be assessed in terms of reactions.

Promos are slightly different as they refer to a track that is going to come out and generally it is the finished article on that particular pressing. DJs are promoting it to generate maximum interest to ensure sales.

DJs only also implies that this track is not sold commercially. The term itself actually lost its value when half dodgy releases started slapping it all over as a half arsed attempt to give crap some cudos.

'DJs Only' is simply an old industry term that is severly out of date and there is nothing underground about it. It even existed in the 60s and 70s and was simply stamped on stuff that was only intended for radio DJs and people didn't go clubbing in the way they do now. It used to be common on 7" singles.

Guy sounds like a tool, who probably does but DJ in the bedroom and has a hacked copy of reason that he doesn't know how to use. He could also be awesome and is the second coming of the mesiah... Maybe we will all be converted and will be on the hunt for 'DJ's only' style tracks... but I doubt it.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-02-2009 15:33:

It means the track isn't good enough for anything else except to be played so loud it's making everyone's ears bleed. Also, everyone's on pills and can't actually remember what track they were hearing the day after.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-02-2009 16:29:

He's probably heard the term as applied to test pressings, acetates etc. as people in this thread have described, but doesn't know what it really means. So he's bluffing and misapplying it to mean shit records that only sound acceptable on drugs and a big system.

Posted by lenazi on Sep-02-2009 16:39:

or in a warehouse.

Posted by boris_the_bear on Sep-03-2009 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
or in a basement.

fixed