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Toronto 18 member gets 14-year sentence

Link: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/690612.

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Brampton � A Mississauga man who confessed to being part of a homegrown terror plot aimed at blowing up buildings in downtown Toronto was sentenced today to 14 years, with credit given for pre-trial custody he was ordered to serve an additional seven years behind bars. Saad Khalid, 23, showed little emotion as Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno read his decision this afternoon in a Brampton court but his family appeared relieved. "Terrorist offences are a most vile form of criminal conduct...They attack the very fabric of Canada's democratic ideals," said Durno, adding the sentence should "send a clear message to those who would be tempted to 'sign-on' to the terrorist plans of the more fanatic." But Durno also said he was persuaded Khalid did not know all the details of the chilling plot and pointed out he has since expressed regret for his role in the group. The judge noted that Khalid was vulnerable after his mother's death, which occurred when he was 16. That, he said, made Khalid vulnerable to being "recruited by more devoted extremists." Khalid's "need to emulate powerful and influential leaders, combined with his youthful naivete, were evident and likely played a role in his behaviour," said the judge, reading from a 48-page ruling. "Khalid has been specifically deterred and learned a significant lesson," said Durno, referring to Khalid's disavowal of terrorism and better understanding of Islam since being in jail. "Some offenders are dangerous and must be separated from society...Khalid is not in the category... I am persuaded that the offender has accepted responsibility for his wrongdoing." The judge said it will be up to the parole board as to when Khalid is eligible for parole, his first opportunity will come up in 28 months. Khalid was ordered to submit a DNA sample and was given a lifetime weapons prohibition. Khalid, who is the second member of the so-called Toronto 18 to be convicted, was given seven years pre-trial credit for the three years and three months spent in jail. The court was filled with Khalid's family and friends, as well as relatives of his co-accused, likely wondering how the decision will impact their loved ones. Also present in the standing-room only courtroom, which was guarded by police, were the lead investigators, as well as members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service. Khalid's guilty plea in May was the first time a member of the group admitted the existence of a bomb plot targeting the Toronto Stock Exchange, the Front Street offices of Canada's spy agency and a military base near Highway 401. Khalid's sentencing will likely influence some of his co-accused, who are also considering guilty pleas. A publication ban prevents identifying the others. After the decision, Khalid's family avoided the throng of reporters, but defence lawyer Russell Silverstein said his client was "perfectly happy with the outcome." Silverstein also said the sentence marks "a certain milestone," which will likely impact Khalid's co-accused who are awaiting a trial that is expected to start next year. The Public Prosecution Service of Canada, on behalf of the federal Crown, will examine the sentence in the days to come, said Brian Saunders, Canada's Director of Public Prosecutions. "It's important to note that nine persons remain accused and that prosecutions are ongoing in this matter," said Saunders in a statement. Details of the deadly attack, which was to have dwarfed London's 2005 subway bombings, were shared with undercover police agent Shaher Elsohemy in the months leading up to the mass arrests on June 2, 2006. The alleged masterminds of the "Battle of Toronto," as it was called, used Elsohemy to obtain the explosive chemicals needed to pack U-Haul vans with fertilizer explosives, according to a statement of uncontested facts. The arrests of 14 adults and four youths came on the day that police set up a sting operation involving the delivery of three tones of ammonium nitrate. Khalid was not the alleged ringleader, but he played a role in the scheme. The University of Toronto student arranged for the rental of warehouse space to store the fertilizer and was responsible for unloading the delivery truck when it arrived. A video played in court showed Khalid and a co-accused unloading a truck and carrying bags labelled "ammonium nitrate" into the warehouse. The pair donned T-shirts with the words "Student Farmers" to avoid suspicion. Khalid pleaded guilty to intending to cause an explosion that would likely cause serious bodily harm, death or damage to property. Defence lawyer Silverstein had suggested Khalid be given a 10-year sentence and extra credit for time served, including 15 months in solitary. He proposed that his client spend an additional two years behind bars. However, Crown Prosecutor Croft Michaelson argued a more appropriate sentence was in the range of 18 to 20 years, with eligibility for parole after serving half. He suggested that with credit for time served, Khalid spend, at least, an additional 12 and a half years incarcerated. During his sentencing hearing, Khalid told the court that he regretted his role in "this despicable crime." "I was not motivated by a hate for Canada, Canadians, democracy or Canadian values," said Khalid, reading from a prepared statement. "I was instead motivated by my disagreement on the issue of Canadian foreign policy, specifically Canada's involvement in Afghanistan." Central to the Crown's case against the group are two alleged conspiracies: that in December 2005 some members attended a terrorist training camp, and that some were involved in the bomb plot. According to court documents, Khalid also attended the 12-day camp, held in Washago, Ont. While there he participated in activities such as marching, paintball games, running an obstacle course and shooting an air rifle. He was also present when the alleged ringleader gave a speech telling attendees it was their mission to defeat Rome, a reference to the United States. The two alleged ringleaders of the group had a falling out in March 2006, which is around the time that the bomb plot took form. Since the arrests in June 2006, charges have been stayed against three youths and four adults. One youth was sentenced to time served. Pre-trial motions are still ongoing for the remaining nine adults.

The messed up part for me is that I was schoolmates with him in Grade 8, and I considered him a pretty close friend. We ended up going to different high schools and never kept in touch after that, but I did hear from a mutual friend that he'd been affected a lot by the passing of his mother. You can imagine the shock I experienced when I opened up The Star and saw his face staring at me. I'm just thankful that nobody was hurt.

edit* i'm drunk atm so lets just delete evyating i said till im sobre to read it lter and write somtign that makes sense

Execute all 18 of those subhuman pieces of shit

This country is fucked, why yes lets parole a would-be terrorist 28 months into his sentence.

"Are you going to blow up any buildings?"
"No."
"OKAY PEACE OUT BRO"

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Execute all 18 of those subhuman pieces of shit This country is fucked, why yes lets parole a would-be terrorist 28 months into his sentence. "Are you going to blow up any buildings?" "No." "OKAY PEACE OUT BRO"

fucking ridicilous.

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with eligibility for parole after serving half

what will it take for canadian justice system to fucking get it??? lots of blood???

probably thinking "oooh nobody's hurt and poor man, his mom died when he was 16 lets cut him some slack".

fucking retards

Eligible for parole in 2 and a half years!

Only in Canada..


There was a time we used to hang people for treason. Hell, the was a time we used to CHARGE people with treason.

Anybody else find it strange that he has a Jewish lawyer???

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Originally posted by VDub Anybody else find it strange that he has a Jewish lawyer???

Well a lot of lawyers are Jewish anyway. Let the conspiracy theories begin.

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Originally posted by VDub Anybody else find it strange that he has a Jewish lawyer???

noticed that too, and hes muslim

oh the ironing

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Originally posted by VDub Anybody else find it strange that he has a Jewish lawyer???

No. Should we?

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Originally posted by Engine9 oh the ironing

No, the ironing would be done by the chinese laundry lady. LOL

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Execute all 18 of those subhuman pieces of shit

Most of them were encouraged by the undercover CSIS agent...who pretty much helped set up the cell. The entire ordeal was/is a farce.

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Originally posted by Orko Most of them were encouraged by the undercover CSIS agent...who pretty much helped set up the cell. The entire ordeal was/is a farce.

isnt that entrapment?

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Originally posted by Orko Most of them were encouraged by the undercover CSIS agent...who pretty much helped set up the cell. The entire ordeal was/is a farce.

Cool with me

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Originally posted by Engine9 isnt that entrapment?

Entrapment is only when the police enduced the defendants to commit a crime that they were unlikely to commit (i.e. police pressuring an ex-drug dealer to do "just one more drug deal"). If these people were planning on committing their terrorist acts anyway then it's just a standard undercover op.


Also, I'm not saying that I agree with the short period before eligibility before parole, however, just b/c someone is eligible parole does not mean that they'll get it. Case in point (although American): Susan Atkins - one of the prime actors in the Manson murders. She's dying of brain cancer and they've had to amputate one of her legs. She can barely sit up in bed...yet they don't give a shit. She's not getting parole.

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Originally posted by Orko Most of them were encouraged by the undercover CSIS agent...who pretty much helped set up the cell. The entire ordeal was/is a farce.

you really believe that?

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Originally posted by Orko Most of them were encouraged by the undercover CSIS agent...who pretty much helped set up the cell. The entire ordeal was/is a farce.

awwwwwww. poor guys who wanted to blow us all, up its not their fault, they were tricked into it. they were forced into it.

if it wasnt for this undercover cop who probably overheard them talking about blowing shit up and then probed into it, they would never do it.

orko you are a ****, grade 1 ****.

there was that guy who tried picking up 12 years old girls online and he run into a police officer posing as a 12 years old girl. poor guy. everything that happened to him was a farce too probably !!!

it may be just me but i want fucking blood ! i didnt immigrate here cause i fucking wanted to, i was running away from fundamentalist, fanatic pieces of shit like this. and now, he went to jail as a minor in blowing shit up. there's good chance that he will come out with a bachelor degree in poisoning our water and food, not even 4 years after he tried to blow us all up.

his mom died when he was 16 and he was really, really pissed off. imagine his state of mind now???

poor guy !!!

edit - **** is c unt. just in case you didnt get it.

These pricks are why we need to bring back the death penalty. Id shudder to see the sentences if they went through with it and got caught. I bet theyd be out within 10 years.

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Originally posted by Spam No. Should we?

Considering the relationship that Muslims have with Jews, yes we should find it strange...

Like David Duke having Johnny Cochrane defend him maybe???

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Originally posted by VDub Considering the relationship that Muslims have with Jews, yes we should find it strange... Like David Duke having Johnny Cochrane defend him maybe???

Yeah a bit shocking on the muslims part, but not so shocking on the lawyers part, cause you know Johnny Cochrane would of defended David Duke's ass for the right price.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 These pricks are why we need to bring back the death penalty. Id shudder to see the sentences if they went through with it and got caught. I bet theyd be out within 10 years.

It's nice to know our tax payers are providing this guy with a pretty comfortable life in prison. Such bullshit....bring back the firing squad!!

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Originally posted by VDub Considering the relationship that Muslims have with Jews, yes we should find it strange...

Eh. Aside from the fact that you're just going by his name, and he could very well be Jewish in name only, these terrorists hate pretty much everyone and everything in the western world, so I don't see how a Jewish lawyer adds any more irony than what we already get from a Muslim terrorist enjoying due process and other fruits of western democracy.

Or the guy might have been appointed as the public defender. Can't see too many people lining up to defend this loser as the case seems neither glamorous nor well-paying. I don't really know the details but there are lots of perfectly simple explanations that would make it a lot less strange.

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Originally posted by VDub Considering the relationship that Muslims have with Jews, yes we should find it strange...

Why? All the Muslim lawyers are driving taxis because their credentials aren't recognized, the ones that ARE lawyers probably don't want to go anywhere near these extremist fucks.

But you know what, lawyers make MONEY, and we ALL know who loves Moooonnnneeeeeeyyyyyy...

Makes perfect sense to me.

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Originally posted by Spam All the Muslim lawyers are driving taxis because their credentials aren't recognized

Well you have to admit, experts in Sharia law aren't exactly in high demand here.

Although if we keep this up, they probably will be.

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