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Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-05-2009 15:18:

Failed projects

Dont you hate it when you start a project and it just goes nowhere for days and in the end you give up thougherly miffed and feeling like you wasted a few days?

What do you guys do to pick it back up?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-05-2009 15:20:

I save it and come back to it years or months later. If it's still as good as I remember it being, I try to work on it again. But usually it's not as great as I thought it was while working on it, so I just delete it.


Posted by Rusty O'Hara on Sep-05-2009 15:31:

Re: Failed projects

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c What do you guys do to pick it back up?


Move on, like MrJiveBoJingles, maybe look at it weeks, month or years later.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-05-2009 15:40:

90% of my projects ends up like this. i dont mind though i had a good time.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-05-2009 16:27:

Yeah i wonder why some projects seem great last night but then the morning after you dont even feel the groove any more?


Posted by Stef on Sep-05-2009 16:46:

I finish everything, every track teaches me something new and maybe i wont sign it but i still might play it out live or just use it for some other reason.


Posted by Terrence Parker on Sep-05-2009 17:50:

No need to call an unfinished track a fail.
Charlie May had pieces of Xpander for 5 years on his hard disk before he met Sasha and
asked him what to do with it. The rest is history.
You never know...


Posted by owien on Sep-05-2009 22:18:

Re: Failed projects

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
Dont you hate it when you start a project and it just goes nowhere for days and in the end you give up thougherly miffed and feeling like you wasted a few days?

What do you guys do to pick it back up?
this does suck and it happens mainly because you enjoy making the parts for it rather then putting the efforts into a compleat track,ie thinking ahead and i have leard the best way round it all is to have 4 or 5 tracks on the go this way stops you tring to hard on one tune and ending up being to fucked off with it to carry on making it.

and also stops you from using up all the ideas in one tune to


Posted by cryophonik on Sep-05-2009 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I save it and come back to it years or months later. If it's still as good as I remember it being, I try to work on it again. But usually it's not as great as I thought it was while working on it, so I just delete it.



Ditto. About every 4 or 5 months I go through all my old unfinished projects to remind myself what's in there and to delete the useless "WTF was I thinking?!" projects. It's kinda funny - I've got ideas in there from many years ago that I just can't bring myself to delete or do anything constructive with.

Maybe we should have a contest where you have to trade one of your "failures" with someone else's.


Posted by Eric J on Sep-05-2009 23:41:

I hold on to everything. As others have said, its good to go back and review older works to see if there was something there or if it isn't worth pursing. In many cases, I have a good base idea for a track, but due to lack of knowledge or experience at the time, did not have the skills to implement it properly.

My production partner sometimes comes by just to lay down simple ideas, on which I will then build full tracks. I have loads of these tracks sitting around, which are usually nothing more than a chord progression and a simple lead. In other cases I have a framework track basically fleshed out with arrangement and basic writing finished. This results in my having a LOT of projects on the disk, of which it is easier to determine status by color coding. I'll generally color code the project folders on my disk to indicate the state each project is in.

Uncolored: Idea.
Yellow: Has potential, work in progress.
Green: good track basically done, need to finalize.
Blue: Finished product.

It's good to get into the habit of coming back to things, especially if you work with other people. Remember that Sasha - XPander came about from a riff that had been laying around on a DAT for like 5 years. Charlie May was sitting in the studio with Sasha, and played it for him, to which Sasha programmed a simple beat and the track was born.

That being said, I also think it is important to know when to give up on an idea and move on.


Posted by PutBoy on Sep-05-2009 23:47:

I have one of those projects that means a lot to me. I still come back to it every once in a while but I haven't added anything new for three months.

But still, it's part of the learning process. A lot of things that I did in that project still inspires me in other projects.

Also, in one song I recently finished I burrowed the lead from one of those failed projects, just bounced it to wav and used it as it was, and it fit perfectly.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-06-2009 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J

Uncolored: Idea.
Yellow: Has potential, work in progress.
Green: good track basically done, need to finalize.
Blue: Finished product.



i just keep everything unfinished in one folder.


Posted by Subtle on Sep-06-2009 01:32:

I have about 75 projects started this year, 15 are complete, 10 have ideas, and the rest is just worthless basises of tracks.

I have a nice theory though, when you open up an old crappy project, always make at least one improvement to it, and in the end you could sit with a lot more projects with potential.

Have not tried it, but seems like a good idea.


Posted by Kage_ on Sep-06-2009 05:53:

The last thing you want to be doing is pulling your hair out over a song that just isn't going right. I have a whole archive of "unfinished" work, so I know how you feel.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-06-2009 09:52:

thanks guys it was just that I had a burst of gettinga remix done for a label which got some dj support and then some other tracks got scheduled for release and I was like ok this is it im moving. Then 2 months of pretty uninteresting generic ideas.

The only thing I have done in that two months is learn more about chords and things from 8notes.com so thats my only consolation.


Posted by Waza on Sep-06-2009 10:10:

yeah i have so many unfinished tracks sitting on my computer but i will not delete them, cause maybe one day i will do a remix on them.


Posted by johncannons1 on Sep-06-2009 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Waza
yeah i have so many unfinished tracks sitting on my computer but i will not delete them, cause maybe one day i will do a remix on them.


same same!


Posted by Alphadelta on Sep-06-2009 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
90% of my projects ends up like this...


+9%



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