Me! Very Live .. Querstion about recording too..

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Posted by lefty1881 on Sep-16-2009 15:22:

Me! Very Live .. Querstion about recording too..

This set was so much fun, I had the crowd going crazy - I pretty much blacked out while I was playing and got so into it, and by the time I was done I was really glad I had it recorded... But I have one question, what's the best way to go about getting a recording with the crowd noise in it?? I had people whooping and cheering, and I want to get that on a recording... Any help would be great!!

Oh...
Here's the set

http://soundcloud.com/on-delay/aj-g...-up-the-getdown

Posted by Domesticated on Sep-17-2009 02:44:

If you want anyone to listen to this you will need to specify what kind of music it is, or post a tracklist.

For crowd noise, you need a microphone at the gig hooked up to a side-chain device and routed into your recording device. Basically, 'side-chaining' works so that when one sound becomes loud, the 'main' sound (your music) is lowered automatically to balance the two. This is how radio shows let their DJs speak over the music without the two sounds clashing with one another.

You wouldn't keep the microphone switched on at all times though, just during the bits where you think some crowd noise would sound good (i.e. never).

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-17-2009 02:50:

My mixer has a channel for a microphone with a built-in "sidechain device".

Posted by Domesticated on Sep-17-2009 03:07:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
My mixer has a channel for a microphone with a built-in "sidechain device".

Which mixer do you have?

My mixer has a microphone channel too, and it may well employ automatic side-chaining, but I'm not sure.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-17-2009 03:10:

Behringer VMX300. Not the best piece of kit in the world, I'll admit, but I bought it when I was 17.

Posted by Domesticated on Sep-17-2009 04:02:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Behringer VMX300. Not the best piece of kit in the world, I'll admit, but I bought it when I was 17.

That's an understatement. That said, I just looked up the manual for my Vestax unit and it doesn't appear to have that function built in.

p.s I'll trade you my dinosaur computer for your dinosaur mixer?

Posted by lenazi on Sep-17-2009 04:05:

which vestax?

not all of them are shit.

Posted by enydo on Sep-17-2009 04:26:

How's the Vestax PCV-275? It's what I'm getting here in a little while.

Posted by jupiterone on Sep-17-2009 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
How's the Vestax PCV-275? It's what I'm getting here in a little while.

i fucking loved that bitch. twas my first mixer, built like a tank and i LOOVVEDDD the faders. they're great for long transitions as they have a bit of friction to them which rules. the kill switches were great too. really miss that mixer

Posted by Domesticated on Sep-17-2009 04:52:

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Originally posted by lenazi
which vestax?

not all of them are shit.

What do you mean 'not all of them are shit'? I wouldn't put them in the same range as A&H and brands like that, but Vestax is miles ahead of most popular brands of mixers. Given a cash limit, I would choose a Vestax over Denon, Pioneer, Stanton, Numark and many other brands.

At the moment I have the PCV-275, which I really only use for routing between my sole turntable and a few other pieces of gear because I haven't owned decks for a couple of years.

It's a great mixer enydo. It served me well for quite a few house parties when I used CDJs and is a serviceable bedroom mixer. The faders have great weight and still haven't bled, the EQs cut quite savagely and the kill switches are a lot of fun too. Although the middle channel can't be assigned to the cross-fader, this never bothered me because I've always mixed with the up faders. All the main parts are replaceable if you need it. I highly recommend it.

Posted by enydo on Sep-17-2009 05:22:

Nice! I'm so fucking excited about finally getting all my kit together. I've got my tables and monitors, just need the mixer, headphones, and a receiver.

Posted by lefty1881 on Sep-18-2009 05:31:

Is this how they do the recordings from live shows, like when Area was at WMC , or pretty much any of the Electric Zoo recorded sets? I hear crowd noise through the whole thing, but the mix still sounds pretty good and clear.