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Provincial By-Election today in St. Pauls - be sure to vote!

I am reminding all my TA friends that today we have a chance to send Mr. McGinty a strong message and defeat the liberal candidate in St. Pauls...

Julian Heller, the NDP candidate, has lived in the riding for a long time and ran against Michael Bryant the last two times...

The new NDP leader, Anne Horvath, could use a talented MPP like Heller on her team.

I voted for him, make him your choice too...get out and vote before 9pm tonight!

voted!!

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Originally posted by aflyonthewall I am reminding all my TA friends that today we have a chance to send Mr. McGinty a strong message and defeat the liberal candidate in St. Pauls... Julian Heller, the NDP candidate, has lived in the riding for a long time and ran against Michael Bryant the last two times... The new NDP leader, Anne Horvath, could use a talented MPP like Heller on her team. I voted for him, make him your choice too...get out and vote before 9pm tonight!

Sue ann levy if i were voting there.

I love how she holds miller accountable in her editorials.

Last thing toronto needs is more NDP. Thats what got us into this mess in the first place!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Sue ann levy if i were voting there. I love how she holds miller accountable in her editorials. Last thing toronto needs is more NDP. Thats what got us into this mess in the first place!

This was a provincial by-election...nothing to do with Miller or more NDP for the city....

In any case, it seems people get the government they deserve....E health and OLG spending scandals...the pending harmonizing tax....and still Mc Ginty and his liberal bandits get 50% of the vote....pathetic.

hahah ndp, good joke thread dude

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Originally posted by aflyonthewall This was a provincial by-election...nothing to do with Miller or more NDP for the city.... In any case, it seems people get the government they deserve....E health and OLG spending scandals...the pending harmonizing tax....and still Mc Ginty and his liberal bandits get 50% of the vote....pathetic.

The riding is in toronto and the NDP were being promoted. Thus the NDP agenda would be represented by the likes of that MPP. My point is with miller and company, toronto doesnt need anymore of that type of government.

As for the liberal win, toronto voters are a like a moth to a flame. Unbelievable.

Seriously. What the hell is wrong with people. Scandals, higher taxes, inefficent government. What will it take. Really? what will it take for people, more specifically Torontonians to finally figure out that Dalton is bad news?

It will be too late once the HST comes to head. And then people will start complaining, but then it is way too late. I just sincerly hope they remember when they are paying more in gas because of taxes to go vote in a couple years.

I voted as well.

Socialists won again.

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Originally posted by Sentinal Seriously. What the hell is wrong with people. Scandals, higher taxes, inefficent government. What will it take. Really? what will it take for people, more specifically Torontonians to finally figure out that Dalton is bad news? It will be too late once the HST comes to head. And then people will start complaining, but then it is way too late. I just sincerly hope they remember when they are paying more in gas because of taxes to go vote in a couple years.

Conservatives should stop with this "make the right choice (us) or else you're idiots Toronto" - it's extremely arrogant and not endearing to the people you want to bring you in. Despite what you may want to say, Ontario is not in some life or death crisis that only your people can save us from.

All things in due time, if HST hits home anywhere near as bad as the GST did in its day, then Ontario Liberals will pay the same price that the federal PCs did, and your people can campaign on the promise that you will remove it, only to not do so once you get back in power and taste the increased cashflow (just like the federal Liberal boneheads did, right?)

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Originally posted by daves Conservatives should stop with this "make the right choice (us) or else you're idiots Toronto" - it's extremely arrogant and not endearing to the people you want to bring you in. Despite what you may want to say, Ontario is not in some life or death crisis that only your people can save us from.

Tell that to some poor bastard that is already living paycheque to paycheque barely making it by and now has to pay increased rent, increased cost of food, increased everything really.

But not to worry, I'm sure the Liberal $300 please-reelect-us cheque will go a long way for these people.

hahaha that's gold - since when do conservatives care about the "poor bastard living paycheque to paycheque"?!

oh yeah, when they need their vote?!

because every other point in time it's "they have made poor life decisions and it's their own fault!" and "they're a burden on the system!" and "why should we be propping them up with our hard-earned dollars?!"

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Originally posted by daves hahaha that's gold - since when do conservatives care about the "poor bastard living paycheque to paycheque"?! oh yeah, when they need their vote?! because every other point in time it's "they have made poor life decisions and it's their own fault!" and "they're a burden on the system!" and "why should we be propping them up with our hard-earned dollars?!"

Actually its more like why should the government be taking away so much of their wealth that they become poor and dependent on the government to provide them with wealth?

This is the fundamental principal that most socialists miss. The idea of conservative economics is to prevent people from becoming poor and dependent in the first place.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I voted as well. Socialists won again.

Since when are the Liberals socialists???

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Actually its more like why should the government be taking away so much of their wealth that they become poor and dependent on the government to provide them with wealth? This is the fundamental principal that most socialists miss. The idea of conservative economics is to prevent people from becoming poor and dependent in the first place.

So the hard working moms doing cash at Walmart type companies, because the majority of them don't look like college students, would benefit from not having health care for them and their children in favor of more tax cuts for their multi billion dollar employers?

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Originally posted by miketg23 So the hard working moms doing cash at Walmart type companies, because the majority of them don't look like college students, would benefit from not having health care for them and their children in favor of more tax cuts for their multi billion dollar employers?

Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages.

Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues.

People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses.

"Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

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Originally posted by miketg23 Since when are the Liberals socialists???

Since pretty much the inception of the party...

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Originally posted by DigiNut Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages. Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues. People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses. "Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

Diginut just pwned this thread.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages. Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues. People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses. "Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

If all things conservative are the solution to poverty, as you and jay seem to believe, why is there so much more of it in the USA compared to here and Europe?

And, other than the greeters, very few walmart employees are over 60. Nice try though

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Originally posted by miketg23 If all things conservative are the solution to poverty, as you and jay seem to believe, why is there so much more of it in the USA compared to here and Europe? And, other than the greeters, very few walmart employees are over 60. Nice try though

if you dont think there is a lot of poverty in europe you have really good blinders on.

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