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Posted by gmoney44 on Sep-17-2009 20:59:

Pioneer CDJ 2000!



www.pioneerprodj.com

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/...-1-inch-lcd-ne/


Posted by Frequency Frank on Sep-17-2009 21:17:

@ $2,200/piece, I'll pass


Posted by Victor Dinaire on Sep-17-2009 22:03:

Looks awesome but indeed, that's a steep price. I'll eventually grab a pair down the line when it becomes the standard gear at most venues...


Posted by Neo95gt on Sep-17-2009 23:44:

dam that thing is awesome. so is the record box like serato or is it just a library?

well I won't be getting it for awhile, hopefully it drops the price of the 1000's though!


Posted by Zack Roth on Sep-18-2009 00:12:

That is indeed bas ass. The price is way steep though...and if you get one, you basically need a second to utilize all the featires. Like Vic said, when it becoems club standard, I'll probably end up getting it.

Question though..is the sound quality of an mp3 off a thumb drive as good as an audio cd? I thought that was an issue at one point...


Posted by sot on Sep-18-2009 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Question though..is the sound quality of an mp3 off a thumb drive as good as an audio cd? I thought that was an issue at one point...


i highly doubt the sound quality of an mp3 off a thumb drive is lesser or better then that of an audio cd.

i mean whenever you put a mp3 on a music disc, the burning software u use whether it be toast, nero or whatever encodes the file into a .cda which makes it playable on all cd players, that doesen't degrade or better the quality of it. same situation if you just burn the mp3 of it as an mp3 data file.

when you burn a mp3 to a thumb drive, the quality of the file should be an exact copy of the mp3 burned to cd.

back to the topic

$2200 is steeeeep..real steep. they need to work out a deal for a pair for like $3000 in the long run and i MIGHT buy into it..but will take some time to save up for.


Posted by Xevious on Sep-18-2009 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by sot

i mean whenever you put a mp3 on a music disc, the burning software u use whether it be toast, nero or whatever encodes the file into a .cda which makes it playable on all cd players, that doesen't degrade or better the quality of it. same situation if you just burn the mp3 of it as an mp3 data file.

when you burn a mp3 to a thumb drive, the quality of the file should be an exact copy of the mp3 burned to cd.


No sorry you are mistaken. When ever you convert sound from one source to another there is always a loss in sound quality due to sampling rates. It is impossible at the moment to perfectly transcode from mp3 to cd. You are better off just using the mp3 file.


Posted by EliPsE on Sep-18-2009 01:03:

Looks badass, but the question is will this become a club standard?Having to organize your tracks ahead of time means you would need to own it at home as well. Way too pricey. I'll stick with my vci-100 controller and mixer


Posted by SebG on Sep-18-2009 01:07:

Does this mean all the CD DJ 1000 will drop down? Sweeeet


Posted by ArminD1981 on Sep-18-2009 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SebG
Does this mean all the CD DJ 1000 will drop down? Sweeeet


I hope so


Posted by Lira Yin on Sep-18-2009 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by SebG
Does this mean all the CD DJ 1000 will drop down? Sweeeet


Eventually, but I don't think it'll happen that quickly. the 2000s are seriously badass & have a looot of potential, but unless they become club standard pretty soon, the 1000s are still less steeply priced, widely used, and not vastly inferior-- the price probably won't drop like a stone.


Posted by BradMiller on Sep-18-2009 06:17:

These look crazy sick but at $2,200 a piece I think it will be awhile before they become industry standard. In times like these I can't see many clubs putting up the money to buy 2-4 of these

Definitely love the whole usb thing and especially the ability to cut loops and hot keys at home.

I think they're on the right track with the screen navigation but I think it would be better with one giant touch screen on the mixer itself instead of the cdjs. A super DJM 800 if you will! :P


Posted by coolestrl on Sep-18-2009 06:28:

i think armin was using them at the zoo, when i saw the pic of the equipment, i thought they were dvd-js but he was using cdj 2000's.

im thinking about selling my mk'3 now before they deprecate a lot and get these when they get a bit cheaper.



Posted by Lostvission on Sep-18-2009 06:58:

I don't like them, but then again i don't like serato either. It's becoming to convenient and lazy. I enjoy the art of spinning with actual objects i can touch. That's just me though.


Posted by BiG MiKE on Sep-18-2009 13:42:

Go for the CDJ 900s. Almost the same thing and I believe a bit cheaper


Posted by Freak on Sep-18-2009 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by coolestrl
i think armin was using them at the zoo, when i saw the pic of the equipment, i thought they were dvd-js but he was using cdj 2000's.

im thinking about selling my mk'3 now before they deprecate a lot and get these when they get a bit cheaper.




Nope, they are DVJ-1000s, not CDj2000s


Posted by Uncle ED on Sep-18-2009 18:31:

SO I guess the VDJ's are a bust? Has anyone ever seem them at a club??


Posted by Zack Roth on Sep-18-2009 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Uncle ED
SO I guess the VDJ's are a bust? Has anyone ever seem them at a club??



Sander K uses them in his live sets, not sure about other big djs. I definitely don't think they caught on like Pioneer was hoping.


Posted by Freak on Sep-19-2009 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Sander K uses them in his live sets, not sure about other big djs. I definitely don't think they caught on like Pioneer was hoping.


DVJ-1000s are functionally identical to CDJ1000mk3 in every way for CDs - arguably better as they have a metal jog wheel not plastic. The screen is also angled so it is easier to see, and they are better laid out...they have the fwd/reverse loop feature, and an 'emergency loop' function.
And of course they have the funky light over the slot

The reason they arent used as often is purely down to the whopping cost.

We have 5 DVJs, and 8 cdjs.. but then it is a big club... the other two clubs i engineer at from time to time also have them.
Armin likes to use them too


Posted by Uncle ED on Sep-19-2009 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
DVJ-1000s are functionally identical to CDJ1000mk3 in every way for CDs - arguably better as they have a metal jog wheel not plastic. The screen is also angled so it is easier to see, and they are better laid out...they have the fwd/reverse loop feature, and an 'emergency loop' function.
And of course they have the funky light over the slot

The reason they arent used as often is purely down to the whopping cost.

We have 5 DVJs, and 8 cdjs.. but then it is a big club... the other two clubs i engineer at from time to time also have them.
Armin likes to use them too

Be nice to see them in use in NYC. I have a great Dan Tait DVD of his promo set of the DVJ's, just more multi media aspects for me...


Posted by Freak on Sep-19-2009 11:36:

ill take some photos tonite of them in use at my club- you can see the difference..


Posted by BiG MiKE on Sep-19-2009 17:07:


Posted by aNYthing on Sep-20-2009 00:32:

of course Armin and other "biggies" get them for free - just so that Pioneer can slap "Armin uses them...". Because as everyone knows your DJ Mag position is down to what CD deck you use. So, Armin uses top of the line, that's why he's #1. If Tiesto could afford to buy decks more "upscale" than shitty behringers, he'd still be #1. But he couldn't afford them because he blew (ha! get it?) all his money on coke.... or was it Oakey? Does it really matter? I'm off to Guitar center to buy a pair and $7000 mixer. I'm RICH (AND SOON TO BE FAMOUS), BITCH!


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Sep-20-2009 03:21:

These are going to sell at $1600 each, not $2200 which is msrp. Still kind of high, but I'll sell my cdj1000 MK'2 for them.


Posted by DJ Eddie Lee on Sep-20-2009 05:29:

You know, I've really studied these and think these are far superior to the CDJ 1000s. As a matter of fact, my CDJs are just collecting dust in my bedroom now that I use Traktor. But if you're still using CDJs as your music source, I can see why these would be so much more helpful, versatile, and advanced. I still miss the feel of vinyl and CDJs and the 2000's just might convince me to get back to "conventional" DJing with these as my primary audio source. Don't get me wrong, the 1000's will probably be the standard for quite some time longer, but then again who ever thought that the technics 1200 and vinyl would ever become obsolete? I really do encourage all the DJs that are out there to embrace technology and get the best equipment possible and push the limits of DJing. There's just too many DJ's out there competing with the same equipment and utilizing technology will allow those bedroom DJs to get to the next level and separate themselves from the pack.


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