TranceAddict Forums

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- DJ Booth
-- Have you ever wondered..?


Posted by Andrew K on Jun-29-2002 17:02:

Dunno Have you ever wondered..?

OK, On most of the vinyls I have it is written :
"blablabla... and any public performance without the written permision is prohibited

So... all DJs are illegal? or what?


Posted by Passiva on Jun-29-2002 17:19:

Yea, I've noticed that too lately
So it seems that you have to ask permission to play the record at a party or something...kinda weird

[EDIT]

I've found this on the RIAA site:

quote:

To get a license to use the musical composition there are several organizations that may be able to help, depending on the exact type of license needed. To publicly perform musical compositions, you need to contact one of the three music licensing organizations created to represent songwriters and their publishers:

ASCAP
BMI
SESAC




-ReGrOoVeD


Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-29-2002 17:19:

nope.....when you play them in public you (the club) has to pay the ehhh in holland it's buma stemra, who pays the song's artist

that's how it works formally anyways.


Posted by P`zazz on Jul-02-2002 13:35:

This really SUX

IMAO this is all bull cause when you play a record in public you are promoting the artist and the track so you are actually advertising them for free. So why shouldn't we get paid by them for promoting and advertising an artist and his work


Posted by capricorn15 on Jul-02-2002 14:33:

as if they are going to bust you for playing the records live.

but ya i wondered about that too, i would say just email the record company on the vinyl saying you might play one of their records at a party, and be done with


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-02-2002 14:34:

What used to happen here, is when you buy a record, you can play it where ever, when ever you want, cause some of the money you used to buy it goes to the artist.. But something about spinning CD's, you need a DJ license. Don't know why exactly.. and you are technically supposed to play legal copies of the CDs.


Posted by mantisnl on Jul-02-2002 15:23:

i was thinking of exactly the same thing this morning!!!

but i didn`t have a clue either


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Jul-02-2002 16:16:

This is how it works in the U.S.:

The club or bar pays ASCAP/BMI fees annually. These fees cover all the music that is played in their bar/store/club. A (very small) percentage of the money collected by ASCAP/BMI goes to the artist.

If you are playing a small public performance and you are not making money off it no one will care. If you are making money off it, then you could get it taken to court and ordered to pay whatever financial loss the record label incurred (probably about 40% of what you made).

A lot of record labels will consider DJ play as promotion and advertisment so they wont care if you play their stuff. Hell, I would be honored to find any of my songs played anywhere or downloaded anywhere.


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Jul-03-2002 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
This is how it works in the U.S.:

The club or bar pays ASCAP/BMI fees annually. These fees cover all the music that is played in their bar/store/club. A (very small) percentage of the money collected by ASCAP/BMI goes to the artist.

If you are playing a small public performance and you are not making money off it no one will care. If you are making money off it, then you could get it taken to court and ordered to pay whatever financial loss the record label incurred (probably about 40% of what you made).

A lot of record labels will consider DJ play as promotion and advertisment so they wont care if you play their stuff. Hell, I would be honored to find any of my songs played anywhere or downloaded anywhere.
well said


Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-03-2002 05:47:

as a dj in both cases (records and using cd for a mobile dj service) i do have a little bit of knowledge

there are sets of cds available for public performances, they cost a lot of money but it is totally legal to use them for financial gain
now, i know that if there are songs being played that aren't properly released for financial gain (i.e. burnt cds with bands not found in the sets) and the authorities find out about it, said person or company could face huge fines and possible further legal action.


Posted by matt_a on Jul-03-2002 11:29:

HAhahahaha how the hell will the authorities find out about it. Uless it's a huge party with thousands of people that is advertised and whatnot. Otherwise how can they find out. The authorities these days suck. And why is it that it's always the RIAA involoved. I mean why the fuck does America control the fricken world. All the countries should just tell the Recording indstry assosiation of America to fuck off and mind their own country!
Also i just looked at my records today closely
it also says
"Copying, Hiring, LENDING, broadcasting or public performance of this is prohibited bla bla bla"
So does that mean it's illegal for me to lend it to my friend?
F**KING Authorities!


Posted by Scorchio on Jul-03-2002 13:53:

Its also "Ileegal" to play burned CDs with a Pioneer CDJ-100S


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Jul-03-2002 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Its also "Ileegal" to play burned CDs with a Pioneer CDJ-100S
what about on an American DJ PRO-DJ2?


Posted by Dj Ahter on Jul-04-2002 09:19:

I TOTALLY agree with you Trancey Ash....
Well said!!!


Posted by Scorchio on Jul-04-2002 10:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ LIQUID
what about on an American DJ PRO-DJ2?



Man I worked with that deck, its massive!
Very accurate, anyway look carefuly and see it says: "Only play cds with the original CD trademark with this machine" something like that...


Posted by Dj Zinni on Jul-04-2002 18:00:

its legal only to play burnt cd's if you have a legal copy somewhere like a record or a cd or tape or whatever that you purchased. at least thats what I thought.


Posted by gho on Jul-04-2002 20:47:

my sentiments are:

Screw the hell of of RIAA, they are the cause of all the distress of our lives and all in order to save 90% of the money they raise in the name of the artist to themselves and give mere 10% or less to the person that we adore. I say stop paying for music in all forms and start giving tribute directly to the artist. Think that every 20$ that you are spending, less than 2 will actually reach the person that you are listening. This is a taxing scam by those record companies to smuggle money out of us like they were the state.

DIE RIAA, and Lars Ulrich


Posted by P`zazz on Jul-04-2002 21:19:

Yeah let's unite against the RIAA


Posted by P`zazz on Jul-04-2002 21:19:



Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.