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Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-20-2009 18:27:

Charlotte and Atlanta

Just wondering if the Atlanta scene is dying or what? No offense to Charlotte or the promoters, but they are getting all the good stuff and we seem to really be slacking. They have Gareth Emery, Markus, Acosta... Unless we are booking them and it just hasn't been announced yet, something is not right. I don't post much anymore, but there is a reason for that. There just isn't much to get excited about right now. I want to get excited about Tiesto, but he just is just more trouble than he's worth. I need something to rekindle my love for trance. I've noticed a decline in my listening.


Posted by enydo on Sep-20-2009 18:44:

This is not meant to offend at all, but trance music in general, is and has been, on the decline.


Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-20-2009 19:42:

None taken. I guess I was more curious as to why Charlotte's scene seems to be on the rise as ours seems to be declining. We aren't getting a whole lot of anything, especially trance. If Charlotte, a fairly small city, can get Gareth Emery, why can't we book him here? I mean, it is a short trip all things considering. If it's money, I know he'd do well here. I'd even come out of my semi-retirement to see him.


Posted by Xevious on Sep-20-2009 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
This is not meant to offend at all, but trance music in general, is and has been, on the decline.


Then why are all the top DJs in the world trance DJs? You mean to say that in the US trance is on the decline.


Posted by trancension on Sep-20-2009 20:03:

I think you're overreacting a bit...

We're getting Tiesto, Marco V and Acosta...Charlotte is getting Emery and Schulz...

Depending on your preference, that could be a push. I personally love Schulz and Emery so much more. But Atlanta is still getting names. Just not the names you want per se.

We did just get Cosmic Gate, ATB and Ferry Corsten as well.

We'll get Emery eventually. And I'm sure Schulz will be passing by again soon as well.

Since they're playing on Friday nights though, I'll be going up to Charlotte to see them. No need to wait. $29 for both tickets, combined.


Posted by ZeeRobot1 on Sep-20-2009 22:04:

your also talking about DJ's that cost no where near what liquified is spending to bring and are alot harder to come by granted garth is great but thats one name to 10 I would rather see before garth.

Joris,Sebastien,Desyn, > acosta,emery


and anyways acosta is coming back.


Posted by Demoted on Sep-20-2009 23:06:

We're getting artists you don't like is all.


Posted by trancension on Sep-21-2009 00:18:

I mean Zach is right...

We get a lot of DJs...but they aren't big night DJs. But at the same time, we get the same # of big night DJs Charlotte is getting, just different names. So I think he's wrong to say Charlotte is doing better. But at the same time, we should be seeing a few more big night DJs (aka trance).


Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-21-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
We're getting artists you don't like is all.


No, that's not it at all. I don't see much of any artists coming here. I see Sebastien and maybe a couple others. Let me again clarify. When I come on this page, I see a whole lot of Charlotte stuff and very little Atlanta stuff. I mean, we've had some amazing schedules this year, but recently things have seemed to die down a bit. This isn't just about trance artists, although there is a real lack of that.


Posted by Lostvission on Sep-21-2009 00:23:

Zack ummm buddy ATL has gotten a shit ton of artist this year man. Far from a dead scene. As far as trance artists go...this year you guys have had Markus, Ferry, ATB, Acosta, Paul Van Dyk, Cosmic Gate, Above & Beyond, Rank 1, Armin, and now Marco V and Tiesto are coming. Hmmm i don't think thats any decline in trance. Trance is big room music and is just on a larger crowd, lesser event scale than house and always has been. If your thinking it's fading cause there aren't tons of the trance producers coming through....well in america it's never been like that. Those guys mainly tour Europe and the more known powerhouse trance artists are the ones america clings on to and books. The only real places bringing in a shit ton of trance and many lesser known producers are NYC, LA, San Fran, and Chicago. Especially San Fran.

And to Enydo...no man trance is not on the decline. Just because you follow the trendy bandwagon and have become a techno snootist doesn't discount trance's popularity. If anything trance has more fans than any other genre and has been since the start of it all. I'm not a trance purist by any means, but the logic that it's "fading out" cause the germans started a techno renaissance 3 or 4 years back is absurd.


Posted by Lostvission on Sep-21-2009 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by PVDfan07
No, that's not it at all. I don't see much of any artists coming here. I see Sebastien and maybe a couple others. Let me again clarify. When I come on this page, I see a whole lot of Charlotte stuff and very little Atlanta stuff. I mean, we've had some amazing schedules this year, but recently things have seemed to die down a bit. This isn't just about trance artists, although there is a real lack of that.
To quote you again...there is far from a lack of. And are you serious man ? Atlanta has had so much prime talent come through this year it's insane. I mean just this past month were Sebastian, Joris, Ferry, Desyn, and im sure a few others. And that's just on Liquified's dime. Other promoters around town are bringing lots of talent through atlanta in dubstep, electro, and techno. Hell Skream was just in town down there and i heard the party went real well. All in all, lots of things are going down in atlanta. In charlotte we average something once every few weeks. And thats all promoters included edm-wise. You don't know how good you have it actually.


Posted by Demoted on Sep-21-2009 02:18:

I honestly have no idea what he's talking about


Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-21-2009 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by trancension
I mean Zach is right...

We get a lot of DJs...but they aren't big night DJs. But at the same time, we get the same # of big night DJs Charlotte is getting, just different names. So I think he's wrong to say Charlotte is doing better. But at the same time, we should be seeing a few more big night DJs (aka trance).


Well, at least you get part of what I'm saying. Doesn't seem like anyone is understanding what I'm saying. I am talking about upcoming shows, not the whole year. We have had a great year up until a month or so ago. Yeah, a couple people have passed through, but I'm talking about the upcoming schedule. Charlotte is not doing better as a whole, I'm just comparing their upcoming schedule to ours. No offense to anyone, but I'm kind of excluding these basement dj shows that happen every week or so.


Posted by trancension on Sep-21-2009 03:01:

i know what he's talking about...i mean...who the fuck is desyn masello? joris voorn? sebastian leger?

it's cool that a lot of people appreciate their music and go to see them.

but i don't like their music and have no intention of seeing them. throw in the fact that ferry and cosmic gate were wednesday nights...and it's kind of rough for actual trance addicts. it's nice that ya'll house addicts are getting some love with artists you like thursday and friday and saturday nights.

but where's the trance love? relegated to wednesday nights once a month? harsh for us.


Posted by Demoted on Sep-21-2009 03:27:

It's more about what sells, which right now, for Atlanta, it isn't trance.

At the moment there's plodhouse and mau5haus that's popular along with trendno and drugno. It's what packs clubs. There's also wonkstep and tardstep that's making noise around. But from what I've heard plurtrance shows haven't been pulling great crowds unless it's Armin van Twinkles or Tijschrist.


Posted by Demoted on Sep-21-2009 03:30:

I'd go see Armin if they book him at La Rumba.


Posted by trancension on Sep-21-2009 03:40:

I'm confused though Zach.

We have Tiesto, Marco V and Acosta scheduled to come through. And I think we'll see another good name scheduled before the year is over.


Posted by PVDfan07 on Sep-21-2009 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by trancension
I'm confused though Zach.

We have Tiesto, Marco V and Acosta scheduled to come through. And I think we'll see another good name scheduled before the year is over.


Oh, I have yet to hear about Acosta and Marco V coming to Atlanta. Tiesto is the only one I knew of for sure. I hope we do get another good name by the year's end.


Posted by Seppuku on Sep-21-2009 04:20:

The reason you trancecrackers think that Atlanta isn't getting any big names is because you fail to see how big/internationally respected the people playing these "little basement dj shows" are, regardless of whether they pull big crowds in Atlanta compared to armin and tijschrist or not. I know he sucked, but lol @ "who is Desyn Masiello?"

This being said, there are plenty of techno/house/dubstep events here that suck just as hard as the trance shows.


Posted by Lostvission on Sep-21-2009 05:28:

Well if your whole point is "where is all the big bookings now and for the future"..as aforementioned, there are quite a few booked. And many more will follow. Not sure how long you have been clubbing, but every moment of the year is not always extremely packed. Sometimes takes a few weeks before the next list of bookings hits. Doesn't mean the scene is dying lol. And lol @ "who the hell is Desyn Masiello and Joris Voorn" EDM is more than trance.


Posted by Lostvission on Sep-21-2009 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by trancension
I'm confused though Zach.

We have Tiesto, Marco V and Acosta scheduled to come through. And I think we'll see another good name scheduled before the year is over.
This honestly answers it all. There is not much more to be said.


Posted by ZeeRobot1 on Sep-21-2009 13:40:

if you have such a big problem with you go you get some bank roll and then open your own events company bid against made events out of NYC or space miami or liquified or any other events company to get your MEGATRANCE DJ here on a friday night. Its not just what devin brings its the djs touring schedules and who paid more for them to come that night.


Posted by Xevious on Sep-21-2009 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
It's more about what sells, which right now, for Atlanta, it isn't trance.

At the moment there's plodhouse and mau5haus that's popular along with trendno and drugno. It's what packs clubs. There's also wonkstep and tardstep that's making noise around. But from what I've heard plurtrance shows haven't been pulling great crowds unless it's Armin van Twinkles or Tijschrist.


No i think you're wrong. Trance does sell. It's the only stuff liquified books during the week because that is the only stuff kids will come out for during the week. The youngins aren't usually going to be going to desyn or joris if they were book on a weekday. Those DJs are booked on friday's since it is already well known that people are going to go out on a friday regardless of whose playing.

Liquified is a buisiness and they are trying to maximize profits.


Posted by Liquified on Sep-21-2009 14:36:

this is just us and we have not even announced our fridays in november yet....

Fri. 9.25 - Sebastien Leger
Fri. 10.02 - Miguel Migs
Fri. 10.09 - Lee Burridge
Fri. 10.16 - Gene Carbonell
Fri. 10.23 - Spektrum theme event
Wed. 10.28 - Sasha
Fri. 10.30 - George Acosta
Fri. 11.06 - Massive night with 2 live acts and a first ever DJ appearance
Wed. 11.18 - Probably one of the biggest djs in the world right now
Wed. 12.16 - Fedde Le Grand


Posted by trancension on Sep-21-2009 14:41:

What happened to Marco V?


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