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Posted by Max Thomson on Sep-25-2009 18:56:

This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

I'm not fond of linking directly to infowars but each video on this page is really more disturbing than the last:

http://www.infowars.com/video-from-...never-show-you/

College students, many of whom were not even protesting and were observing the protests from their residence halls, are tear gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and have their residence halls invaded.

More change we can believe in, right?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Sep-25-2009 20:10:


Posted by jonSun on Sep-25-2009 20:20:

******** your fucked up.



Anyways,
its interesting that just over 2 months ago the president & other world leaders were quick to criticize Iran for the treatment of students protesting from youtube videos they watched, but when it happens in Pittsburg it seems to not be a problem.


Posted by Communist on Sep-25-2009 20:45:

If they don't have a permit to protest, and cover their faces and act in a hostile manner, they should expect to get tear gassed and beat down.


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 20:59:

was at Penn State in 2002 when a house party escalated to bottle throwing and people setting shit on fire. I was drunk and hung around even after the police showed up. This was a mistake

Those guys came through, although only about 50 of them, single file line, and told us to get the fuck out fo the way. I was drunk as hell but I got my ass moving. If you dont move, its resisting and they will take you down, end of story

When the police do this its necessary on college campuses to maintain order amonst a bunch of drunk know it all students. The hippie and his gf in video 2 needed move, they didnt, they got tackled.

YOu think those police men want to tackle some 90 pound girl? No...but any sign of weakness will be exploited by the students. Police are doing their jobs. Dont give them shit.

You can see the immaturity of the students in that video. They think its fun and exciting until they get their asses handed to them. Not so funny now is it?


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 21:03:

Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
I'm not fond of linking directly to infowars but each video on this page is really more disturbing than the last:

http://www.infowars.com/video-from-...never-show-you/

College students, many of whom were not even protesting and were observing the protests from their residence halls, are tear gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and have their residence halls invaded.

More change we can believe in, right?


Where do you see res halls invaded? They were in the pathway over the street where the protest was taking place. Shoulda moved.


Posted by D-res on Sep-25-2009 21:14:

Pretty fucking sickening. What's with every cop forgetting he's a public servant. Why is there no respect for individual rights anymore? I like the end of one of the videos a guy asks the cop what this (their excessive use of force) is all about and he glares at him, eventually saying "get the camera out of my face" even though its completely within our rights to film police any time

How about this one from the same event. Two guys in military camo force a protester into an unmarked car and speed off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2B...9774&feature=iv


Posted by D-res on Sep-25-2009 21:19:

Re: Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
Where do you see res halls invaded? They were in the pathway over the street where the protest was taking place. Shoulda moved.


The first video on the site. The stairway they're trapped in is part of the residence hall and a student interviewed at the end talks of them invading residence halls.


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 21:32:

Re: Re: Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
The first video on the site. The stairway they're trapped in is part of the residence hall and a student interviewed at the end talks of them invading residence halls.


Invading residence halls like pulling poeple out of their rooms? I dont see any of that in any of the vids. The cops told the kids to get out of the streets. The kids wanted to stay in the through way over the street to watch and get their jollies off and record everything because that's what young people do. They waited too long to leave and got gassed.

And regards to "invading the dorms" would an abercrombie wearing spoonfed college douchebag exaggerate something like this while on camera? Likely yes. Listen to the background conversations in the videos. Those students are very immature


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 21:36:

And does Alex Jones and his crew make any mention of what those peaceful students did prior to the cops showing up in riot gear and helicopters?

Its nighttime. You think those college students were all sober and behaving nicely? Gimme a break.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-25-2009 21:37:

Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson


More change we can believe in, right?


The indiscretions and hostility of law enforcement agencies in this country vis a vis protesting has been an issue for years no matter who is running the government.


Posted by D-res on Sep-25-2009 21:42:

Re: Re: Re: Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
And regards to "invading the dorms" would an abercrombie wearing spoonfed college douchebag exaggerate something like this while on camera? Likely yes. Listen to the background conversations in the videos. Those students are very immature


Please tell me, what store should he shop from that might make him a credible victim


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 21:49:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
Please tell me, what store should he shop from that might make him a credible victim


"oohhh man my eyes are like totally burning and stuff but I'm still in good enough shape to record this whiney video"


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 22:06:

they could have beat those students much worse than they did. The students were told to leave the street and go inside and didnt.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-25-2009 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
they could have beat those students much worse than they did. The students were told to leave the street and go inside and didnt.






I always love people who make excuses for authority. "Well they didn't shoot them or kill anyone!"

Cool, are we in fucking Iran now?


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 22:23:

Do any of the vids show what the students did prior to the cops taking action, or is that footage conveniently edited out? What about the guy that launched the tear gas back at the cops in vid 1. Does he deserve to be arrested or his he peacefully protesting?


Posted by Clovis on Sep-25-2009 22:27:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Posted by Guest on Sep-25-2009 22:53:

that's great Clovis. Very important stuff

what did the students do prior to the cops arriving? What are students protesting?


Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-25-2009 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Tell'em Clovis!

One of my favs!!!
quote:
No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.


Posted by Guest on Sep-26-2009 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Tell'em Clovis!

One of my favs!!!


dude you're not supposed to disagree with your real life friends on a messageboard. You're supposed to join forces and gang up on all opposition regardless of whether or not your ally is right.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-26-2009 00:55:

Sorry. The Constitution gets me all excited.


Posted by Communist on Sep-26-2009 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Tell'em Clovis!

One of my favs!!!


Key words, "No state"...Misrepresentation of the constitution FTL...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-26-2009 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
One of my favs!!!

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.


lol

im no US constitutional expert but what you've posted seems to relate to powers of the STATES, not the feds. *searches*

yep, i was right

quote:

Here is a ruling (1827) from the highest court in the land on the issue of legal tender as mentioned in the U.S. Constitution (in part):

"It declares that 'no state shall coin money, emit bills of credit, make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.' These prohibitions, associated with the powers granted to Congress 'to coin money, and to regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin' most obviously constitute members of the same family, being upon the same subject and governed by the same policy.
The prohibition in the constitution to make anything but gold or silver coin a tender in payment of debts is express and universal. The framers of the constitution regarded it as an evil to be repelled without modification; they have, therefore, left nothing to be inferred or deduced from construction on this subject...

The next in order is, or 'make anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts;' this is founded upon the same principles of public and national policy as the prohibition to coin money and emit bills of credit, and is so considered in the commentary on this clause in the number of the Federalist I have referred to. It is there said, the power to make anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts, is withdrawn from the states, on the same principles with that of issuing a paper currency. All these prohibitions, therefore, relate to powers of a public nature, and are general and universal in their application and inseparably connected with national policy...

The prohibition is not, that no state shall pass any law, but that even if a law does exist, the 'state shall not make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender.' The language plainly imports that the prohibited tender shall not be made a legal tender, whether a law of the state exists or not. The whole subject of tender, except in gold and silver, is withdrawn from the states...

The second class of prohibited laws comprehends those whose operation consists in their action on individuals. These are laws which make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts...

In all these cases, whether the thing prohibited be the exercise of mere political power, or legislative action on individuals, the prohibition is complete and total. There is no exception from it. Legislation of every description is comprehended within it." [3]


http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/e.../2008/0222.html

the powers given to make money not derived from gold or siler is quite plainly given to the federal government:

quote:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;


Posted by D-res on Sep-26-2009 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol

im no US constitutional expert but what you've posted seems to relate to powers of the STATES, not the feds. *searches*

yep, i was right



http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/e.../2008/0222.html

the powers given to make money not derived from gold or siler is quite plainly given to the federal government:



Awww beaten to the punch by a communist. Care to add a diatribe about the the lack of tin-foil hats in this thread?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-26-2009 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
Awww beaten to the punch by a communist.


he's not a communist.

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
Care to add a diatribe about the the lack of tin-foil hats in this thread?


not every example of people complaining about government activities counts as an outrageous conspiracy theory.


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