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Posted by belagio11 on Sep-26-2009 02:22:

putting your tracks up on myspace before it is released

Is this something you shouldnt do? Lets say you have a track signed, is it better to put it up on your myspace player to promote the upcoming release, or wait till after it is released and then put it up? What do you guys usually do


Posted by cryophonik on Sep-26-2009 02:24:

Check with your label. As I understand it, most labels will allow you to post a short sample of the track, but probably not the entire track and it definitely must not be downloadable.


Posted by belagio11 on Sep-26-2009 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Check with your label. As I understand it, most labels will allow you to post a short sample of the track, but probably not the entire track and it definitely must not be downloadable.


k, thanks man


Posted by Eric J on Sep-26-2009 02:32:

SoundCloud is becoming the default for a lot of artists posting material, released or otherwise. The sound quality is top notch.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-27-2009 16:25:

I did that and the label I am signed to said that really only a 45 second clip should be used. People REALLY do steal music from the net I am friends with a guy that heard his track that he put on youtube in a club! and he never released it because it samples some filmscore.

So basically as soon as a few are sold you have lost the protection but im sure that if you dont put it available for free you will get more initial sales.

saying that whenever i put a short clip on my myspace people message me saying put full tracks up if above and beyond can do it so can you.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-27-2009 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
I did that and the label I am signed to said that really only a 45 second clip should be used. People REALLY do steal music from the net I am friends with a guy that heard his track that he put on youtube in a club!

Someone played a YouTube quality file in a club?


Posted by Morvan on Sep-27-2009 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Someone played a YouTube quality file in a club?

YouTube's sound quality started out in 2005 with being mono and low bitrate. But nowadays the sound quality is only dependant on the file's original quality and the youtube user's account settings.

e.g. depending on your account settings, the sound quality can change dramatically if you click the HD button
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EVcmrbXfg


Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-27-2009 17:07:

youtube in a clob? shit things have gonne to far.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-27-2009 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Morvan
YouTube's sound quality started out in 2005 with being mono and low bitrate. But nowadays the sound quality is only dependant on the file's original quality and the youtube user's account settings.

e.g. depending on your account settings, the sound quality can change dramatically if you click the HD button
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EVcmrbXfg

Even YouTube's "HD" sounds about equivalent to a 128 kbps MP3 to me, or maybe even slightly lower. It is better than it used to be, yes, but not really that great.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-27-2009 20:39:

I know thats what I said about the quality! mind you when i go to clubs the sound quality is awful anyways.


Posted by Stealth on Sep-27-2009 22:18:

There's a simple solution here... just do voice-over drops over the track! For example whenever the local hip hop radio stations premier a new track they always will play drops over it saying stuff like "NEWWW MUSIC","THIS IS A POWER106 WORLD PREMIER", etc... You can post the full wav file of your track on myspace if you want and no one will be able to steal it and use it!


Posted by Subtle on Sep-27-2009 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Stealth
You can post the full wav file of your track on myspace if you want and no one will be able to steal it and use it!
These days one should be happy if anyone wants to even listen to the track in the first place, let alone use it or share it.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-27-2009 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
These days one should be happy if anyone wants to even listen to the track in the first place, let alone use it or share it.


Sad time that people with so much talent go no where because of the satuaration of the EDM market


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-27-2009 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
Sad time that people with so much talent go no where because of the satuaration of the EDM market


Bullshit. People just have no understanding of how to market themselves and use their music properly.

If you leave it up to a label you're not going to get anything more than the norm. you'll be exploited for your work and then forgotten until the next time.

This is avoidable if you take things into your own hands and control each aspect of your music and marketing of it.


Posted by DjStephenWiley on Sep-27-2009 23:53:

I completely out in left field when it comes to this subject. I'm not sure if I will ever even release an original track. Remixes I obviously have little to no control of, but in my opinion the value of having music that only yourself and the world's top jocks have is priceless.

I know many here weren't around back in the late 90's - But hunting down promo copies of limited press music was extremely popular (and expensive) and would really make a DJ actually worth something as opposed to today where it's usually the blunt of a bad joke.

There's nothing like rocking a dance floor with your own music. That's my opinion anyway. Not having to worry about releasing your material also opens up so many possibilities such as sampling whatever the hell you damn so choose and depending on your ethics stealing sounds, sequences, etc.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-27-2009 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
Bullshit. People just have no understanding of how to market themselves and use their music properly.

If you leave it up to a label you're not going to get anything more than the norm. you'll be exploited for your work and then forgotten until the next time.

This is avoidable if you take things into your own hands and control each aspect of your music and marketing of it.


ok well i suppose, but I just mean that what subtle said is right people have so much choice now that you are lucky if a track gets somewhere, even if its good.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-27-2009 23:59:

My plan is to eventually have a sets worth of good trance that I have made some that were released some not and then try to get gigs playing it. Hopefully offering a unique dj set that only I can do, i might use ableton and go for splitting them all into loops or i might just go cdjs.

I think it would be so cool to rock a dancefloor with your own shit


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-28-2009 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
I completely out in left field when it comes to this subject. I'm not sure if I will ever even release an original track. Remixes I obviously have little to no control of, but in my opinion the value of having music that only yourself and the world's top jocks have is priceless.

I know many here weren't around back in the late 90's - But hunting down promo copies of limited press music was extremely popular (and expensive) and would really make a DJ actually worth something as opposed to today where it's usually the blunt of a bad joke.

There's nothing like rocking a dance floor with your own music. That's my opinion anyway. Not having to worry about releasing your material also opens up so many possibilities such as sampling whatever the hell you damn so choose and depending on your ethics stealing sounds, sequences, etc.

Interesting points.


Posted by Subtle on Sep-28-2009 00:02:

I would be flattered if someone stole my music.


Posted by DjStephenWiley on Sep-28-2009 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I would be flattered if someone stole my music.


And you probably wouldn't know either


Posted by zodiac9 on Sep-28-2009 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I would be flattered if someone stole my music.


Same here, and it has happened actually. Several of my releases showed up on Russian Blogs. I translated the comments posted there, and they they were saying things like "unique proggy", and "nice, thanks!". If someone swiped a tune off my myspace, and I saw it on youtube or something, I'd be on cloud nine. I'm not encouraging stealing, but it is very flattering that someone paid attention to my music.



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