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Why is trance embarrasing?

Something I've been thinking of for several years is that it seems like alot of trance producers themselves are ashamed of trance. In interviews they are often very eager to point out that they do not listen to trance. How often do you hear or read that a producer listens to trance music? I for one can't recall it at all through all the years. I remember in an interview with MIKE he said that he liked Justin Timberlake alot. Some producers don't even want to label there music as trance (PvD etc).

People in other scenes have no problem with this but trance people seem to be embarrased with being associated with trance music.
Are you ashamed to mention that you listen to trance? Or have you heard of any trance producer that have ever said that he listen trance?

Would be nice to hear some thoughts on this.

Because trance has like taken over for euro-dance.

People ask me what music i listen to, and im like "Trance" and their like "oh.." because they instantly associate the music with commercial dance music from the radio.

Or I ask someone what music they like, and they say "Trance" i ask them what artists they like and they start mentioning artists such as Cascada, Brooklyn Bounce, or some other mindless crap.

I think what is considered Trance is just so widely varied and different now, that nobody wants to be associated with it.

Reminds me of that one Sasha & Digweed interview a while back where they claimed they never played anything trancey or epic or whatever.

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Originally posted by Subtle Because trance has like taken over for euro-dance. People ask me what music i listen to, and im like "Trance" and their like "oh.." because they instantly associate the music with commercial dance music from the radio. Or I ask someone what music they like, and they say "Trance" i ask them what artists they like and they start mentioning artists such as Cascada, Brooklyn Bounce, or some other mindless crap. I think what is considered Trance is just so widely varied and different now, that nobody wants to be associated with it.

well elaborated explanation

this goes for hip hop & any other genre also

Trance is to Music what Weed is to Drugs

Everyone tries it at least once. Some never try it again, some move onto different music but will fall back to trance if there's nothing else and some never stop and its the only thing they listen to.

Many producers and artists tend to stay away from the word 'trance' due to the many negative associations the word has developed with the world of drugs etc...

its purely marketing in my opinion... PvD and Tijs stay away from 'trance' because of precisely this... Armin van Buuren has a lot of branding associated with the word 'trance' (ASOT etc) so he cant just drop it all...

basically i feel it has less to do with embarrassment and more to do with the fact that they dont want to market themselves as such

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Originally posted by kliq PvD and Tijs stay away from 'trance'

i find that most people stereotype trance with drugs, raves, happy hardcore noises, loud basses, no vocals, and pure repetition.

it's in fact the exact opposite of what trance is. well, at least for me.

i think in order to listen to trance takes a patient mind, a well-tuned ear, and an open mind for listening to music that is often +5-8 minutes longer than your typical 3-4 minute song.

so for me, i love to talk to others about my liking for trance.

Trance has become like that one kid at school that isn't popular at all but you get to know him/her and they're actually really cool but you still can't be seen with them because they are unpopular.

I think PvD is great but it's just absurd that he says he doesn't make trance, just music that is "usually danceable" . Although I will admit some of his stuff isn't quite so trancy, most of it is.

I, for one, am not embarrased to say I like trance. I had to stop saying I like Electronic Dance Music because people always say "So... you mean like techno?". Techno is great but it's certainly not my favorite. Now I just say trance even though I know they immediately think basshunter, cascada, etc. I know what I like and that's really all that matters.

In conclusion, trance shouldn't be embarrassing. It's really a shame that people think of it like that.

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Originally posted by Subtle Or I ask someone what music they like, and they say "Trance" i ask them what artists they like and they start mentioning artists such as Cascada, Brooklyn Bounce, or some other mindless crap.

Could be worse. When I first got into EDM I thought Brooklyn Bounce were prog house

The problem is that so much shit is produced under the 'Trance' label that it makes it easy for people to talk bad about it.

Another way to look at it is... Trance parties get the biggest crowds/have the most pull and for some it's a jealousy thing. It's almost always the fans of the other sub-genres bitching about Trance -- rarely is it ever Trance fans bitching about other sub-genres of EDM.

Haters will remain haters - just enjoy the music you like and don't worry about what the other guy is listening to.

LOL, anyone who is embarrassed of the music he listens to is an idiot.

Nobody is embarrassed by trance! We say what we don't mean and we do what we don't say, That's just the way of the world.

You bring up a very good point, but most trance djs/producers have a monthly top ten on thier site, So technically they are listing trance tracks that they enjoy. Just becuase they don'y talk about other artists that they listin to in interviews doesnt mean anything. Its a catch 22 I guess.

trance, in pants?


I luv lamp.

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Originally posted by Subtle Or I ask someone what music they like, and they say "Trance" i ask them what artists they like and they start mentioning artists such as Cascada, Brooklyn Bounce, or some other mindless crap.

that has pretty much summed up my post

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Originally posted by Subtle Because trance has like taken over for euro-dance. People ask me what music i listen to, and im like "Trance" and their like "oh.." because they instantly associate the music with commercial dance music from the radio. Or I ask someone what music they like, and they say "Trance" i ask them what artists they like and they start mentioning artists such as Cascada, Brooklyn Bounce, or some other mindless crap. I think what is considered Trance is just so widely varied and different now, that nobody wants to be associated with it.

I think a lot of people are just using trance as a blanket statement for the music they listen to, kind of like how people used to just say techno to refer to electronic music (some clueless people still do). Although I will admit that these days, when someone uses the word trance, it is a little more targeted than the old techno statements.

The problem is that most people whether they mean to or not, know that this has become a blanket statement and will just assume they mean the most mainstream form. This is either because they don't know any better and just associate it themselves, or they think the other person is too new to the scene to define their musical tastes any more specifically.

When someone asks me what I listen to, instead of trance, I try to list subgenres of trance that I enjoy. If they don't know what they are, I'll give them artist examples if they want. When I ask someone what they listen to and they tell me trance, I try to ask what artists they listen to so that I get a better idea of what they like. The problem is that some people who are brand new to the scene don't realize that trance is such a broad term that they are only very loosely defining what they listen to when they say trance. Maybe my approach to dealing with others will work for you too.

If at a job interview I'd get asked what music I listen to, given the job isn't about electronic music, I wouldn't have answered trance no matter what. If I was in the company of the presidents/priministers of the world I wouldn't have either. My answer would always be electronic music or something along those lines. These things are in the Ear of the Beholder. It doesn't really mean I'm embarassed, it just means there are situations where you gain more/lose less by just skipping the word entirely. Wether or not these situations arise more often for trance than any other kind of music I'm not sure. It's probably up there on the top though

I agree with whoever said it's the association with raves and drugs. All the negative publicity the scene got in the 90s still lingers in society's collective consciousness. Telling people you go clubbing and listen to house music seems more 'normal' than telling people you go to 8 hour long dance parties and listen to trance, at least where I come from.

As for other artists not wanting to be associated with trance as a label or genre, I think it's also part of a more and more common theme of DJs not wanting to identify with a specific genre. More and more, you hear them say things like "I don't play the genre game" and so on. Like, I saw an interview with the Swedes where they seemed to imply they wanted to make less of their usual uplifting epic house-type stuff and make more techy stuff. Heh. Oh, and Deadmau5 wanting to make an album of non-dance music, more IDM style. Yeah, the pop artists wanting street cred or something... that's if you give credence to techno/tech-house being 'more elite(?)' and non-dance electronic music being more artistic(?)...

Bad trance is embarrassing for good reason. It is a poor pop interpretation of what was once a good genre.

There are still quality "trance" Djs like John 00 Fleming, Christopher Lawrence etc who don't play the fluffy pop crap which gives the genre the bad name. For me, they are the true trance DJs.

to me trance has been going down the shitter for the most part since 07
thats when i dunno it just started to lack originality,emotion etc
plus all these useless remakes didnt help it either
today alot of dj's are just adding more different types of genres into their productions and their sets
its just all over the place not what it used to be
and almost every dj now is just about whoreing out their own shit when the play...no more takeing you on a musical journey
dont get me wrong there is still good quality trance out there, but its just not gettin the airplay and respect it deserves
the generation of clubbers is a different generation from day 5,6 years ago when i felt trance to me was quality all around
now they just want to hear the vocals,mashups and all the other garbage

a lot of yuz dance funny

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Originally posted by floyd741 Trance has become like that one kid at school that isn't popular at all but you get to know him/her and they're actually really cool but you still can't be seen with them because they are unpopular.

well that's pretty pretentious.

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol well that's pretty pretentious.

Is that you at your school?

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Originally posted by Lews Is that you at your school?

yup, it sure is.

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