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Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-06-2009 12:22:

New Sound Design Course

Hi all,

I am currently creating my next video tutorial course which will be called "Sound Design".

I thought I would ask you guys if there is anything in particular that you would like to see/expect in a course like this?

I will be covering subjects like bass and kick drum creation, pads, sfx and leads but also things like sampling techniques, real world sound manipulation, synthesis etc and will be using hardware and software.

Any and all ideas appreciated and will be considered for inclusion on the course.

all the best,

Mark


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-06-2009 12:42:

How to make rolling / 'squeezed' thru rolling bass like Akesson on his Flavour Park
release

I bet you �10 you cannot come close.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deyRENcHGUk


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-06-2009 12:59:

Yo,

Well having listened to the track i would say that its not that difficult, the rolling bassline pattern is "generic" at best and the sound, well yeah nice bass, but again i am sure i can get very close using a multitude of vsts or my hardware, but then i guess you will just have to wait until the course is released to see if i include it

Nice idea, all though the course will NOT be about making any specific GENRES sounds, I will endevour to meet any reoccuring requests which is what i am after


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-06-2009 14:57:

Well if you can get that bass sound I'd be impressed, cause for sure no tutorial I've ever seen comes even close. Sure the give you the usualy generic stock info - 3 detuned saws, yada yada, but it's more or less useless as they don't know or possibly don't even know they don't know because thier ears are'nt sufficiently zoned in to tell the difference between a generic rolling bass and one like that on Akessons track.

I recetly bought Gladiator and 99% of the sounds are lame and quaint, but no where near the game.


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-06-2009 15:15:

hey,

I understand completely what you are referring too and could probably find you 1000`s of those generic multiple saw wave answers easily as i am sure you can. I have also been guilty of giving them out in the past due to lazy-ness on my part.

If you are unimpressed with gladiator may i recommend a few others that you might try.

Check out
Zebra 2
Sylenth (free i think)
KarmaFX Synth
Vaz Modular
Reaktor
Cronox 2/3
FM8

To name a few.

If i have time in the next couple of days i might give the bass a go to see whats what, maybe even try it on Gladiator so if i can help you out at all.

all the best,

Mark


Posted by aLviNx80 on Oct-06-2009 15:28:

Sylenth isn't free.. maybe you mean synth1
anyways, will be checking out the tutorial


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-06-2009 15:33:

Hi,

Sorry i stand corrected, aLviNx80 is quite, sorry for any confusion.

Mark


Posted by johncannons1 on Oct-06-2009 23:07:

thick trance bass's

crunchy nice sounding mid bass's

HEKTIC crisp trance leads. . .

warm pads

haha

im in if you ahve these things


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-07-2009 08:35:

HI,

Well there will definately be videos on creating large layered pads and leads.

There will also be videos on how to make several different bass type sounds although the focus of the videos wont be trance per se, it will be sound design, i.e how you actually design specific sounds, how the building blocks are put together etc.

anyhoo thanks for suggestions so far doodes


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-07-2009 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by SoundMagus


it will be sound design, i.e how you actually design specific sounds, how the building blocks are put together etc.




Mate, there are tons of these generic how to make sounds tbh. I just bought Rick Snowmans dance music manual which has vids - what a joke, the whole thing is more or less useless. Also the author is from the vast idiotic school of know nothing theorists that say things like the bass must always be centred and in mono - mmm try telling Ferry Corsten that one!

Good luck with it, btw, I'm not seeking to undermine you in any way, just giving input is all which you can take or leave.


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-07-2009 10:27:

Yo,

The type of sounds i am talking about are your normal sounds, kick bass, leads pads etc but also things like explosions using real life sound layering.

But its not just this type of thing, i am also covering things like sample mangling using samplers to create whole new instruments and timbres.

Also i will be showing you how to create your own synths using Reaktor and synth edit (and probably karmafx synth) to create your own unique multi/single purpose tools.

I will also be covering synthesis types in detail and also more less known parameters in synthesis and their use, things like key follow and the like.

Also i will be showing the use of effects and audio manipulation to create unexpected and new timbres.

The course itself will not be about "sounds for trance" etc more like how to create sounds from scratch or unexpected material to gain a new and fresh timbre as well as deeper appreciation of audio manipulation in general, there will be a wide scope of subjects covered.

I am aiming to show/teach people how to be more creative in the use of audio/synthesis/sampling manipulation to be more original in their music. Also this course will be useful for sound to video as it will teach you how to create things like evolving timbres, sfx and the like.

Mark


Posted by IceColdWater on Oct-10-2009 01:59:

I would be totally amazed if you can make this sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nCEazvVkx4
It starts at 0:31 , its the high bassline that goes around the stereo.

I know its a sawtooth or something.. But I know there is something behind it.. FM? AM? PM? Argh!!


Posted by kitphillips on Oct-10-2009 04:00:

Only interested if you can tell me how to make some cool deep house stuff, techno basses, better percussion etc

So over trance and I think a lot of people on here are.


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-10-2009 11:52:

hey,

The course wont be about creating a bass for this genre or a lead for that genre, its about techniques, procedures and the more technical side behind creating sounds from nothing, the process involved in layering, synthesis, sampling etc, actually how to put it together, the fundamentals if you will.

However i will have a small part of the course where i will show whats needed to make the basic "dance music" sounds although how deep this will go, ie bass for this genre and that genre i am not sure yet, i would rather give everyone the knowledge they need as a starting point, then let them learn and adapt from that, we shall see.

thanks

Mark


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-10-2009 11:56:

IceColdWater - sounds like Fm synthesis to me, delay, reverb etc and arppegiated, lots of filter envelope modulation unless they are just using the filter in manual automation.

Nice sound


Posted by Subtle on Oct-10-2009 12:07:

Hey SoundMagus

How about this one, you have an idea whats going on in this lead starting halfway through ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiX9zkmK9V4

Cant say ive heard anything like it before.


Posted by EgosXII on Oct-10-2009 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by SoundMagus
Well having listened to the track i would say that its not that difficult, the rolling bassline pattern is "generic" at best


agree...

not sure what is so hard about getting that rolling bassline which is in every second trance tune these days LOL

i think nobody knows what the hell sound design is anyway.. not that i'm an expert..

i would have a look if it was creating some really cool sounds and weird fx etc. as you already mentioned: sample mangling and semi-sound-scaping (but useable in a track, not like huge open spaces that are 10 minutes of crickets and wind) would be really interesting


Posted by lenieNt Force on Oct-11-2009 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by SoundMagus
Yo,

The type of sounds i am talking about are your normal sounds, kick bass, leads pads etc but also things like explosions using real life sound layering.

But its not just this type of thing, i am also covering things like sample mangling using samplers to create whole new instruments and timbres.

Also i will be showing you how to create your own synths using Reaktor and synth edit (and probably karmafx synth) to create your own unique multi/single purpose tools.

I will also be covering synthesis types in detail and also more less known parameters in synthesis and their use, things like key follow and the like.

Also i will be showing the use of effects and audio manipulation to create unexpected and new timbres.

The course itself will not be about "sounds for trance" etc more like how to create sounds from scratch or unexpected material to gain a new and fresh timbre as well as deeper appreciation of audio manipulation in general, there will be a wide scope of subjects covered.

I am aiming to show/teach people how to be more creative in the use of audio/synthesis/sampling manipulation to be more original in their music. Also this course will be useful for sound to video as it will teach you how to create things like evolving timbres, sfx and the like.

Mark

Man I'd just like to say this sounds really promising... I'd love to check your tutorials out.

Keep up the good work!


Edit: I got a suggestion for you btw.. How to make something like the insane bassline of Nic Chagalls Hard Dub Re-edit of What You Need..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnuZU8ROeDI


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-11-2009 12:30:

Hi,

thanks for your interest and suggestions guys really appreciate it.

lenieNt Force - If you goto my website, www.cubaseguru.com and register there are around 4 hours worth of high quality video there you can download to check out. I also have quite a few other videos i could put up but they are relatively old, things like : Arpegiators, Virus TI automation, Battery, Cubase basic set up etc. They are very old and i am not really sure how much benefit they would be to anyone now but they are there and i would be happy to make them available if anyone wants them

Mark


Posted by lenieNt Force on Oct-12-2009 05:42:

Thanx man!


Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-23-2009 08:15:

Hi Guys,

Just a quick update.

The Sound Design "course" will now probably be split into 3 parts over 3 different courses. They will be :

1. Synthesis
2. Sampling
3. Effects & Processors

thanks for your continued support,

Mark


Posted by Waza on Oct-23-2009 11:32:

Cool looking forward to this....



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