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Posted by Domesticated on Oct-09-2009 00:45:

Krousis [big room progressive house]




001 Bart Van Wissen - Space Tourist
002 Atmos - Runner Up
003 Sander Kleinenberg - My Lexicon
004 Dousk - Acrobatics
005 Fitalic - Distructible
006 Fitalic - Manufactured Miracles
007 Fitalic - Byala Beach
008 Liquid Soul - Unannounced Portal
009 FREq - Carbon Based Lifeforms (Sun Control Species Remix)
010 Symphonix - Floating Mirror
011 Anton Chernikov - Rainbow Hunt
012 Ja�a - Electric Sunrise
013 Sugar - Waterfront

Format: 320 kbps mp3 (all source files .wav format)
Length: 75:43
Artwork is edited version of: Meditation Pool

Download includes artwork and cue file for burning to CD.



To download, right click here and select 'save as'.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-09-2009 00:49:


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-09-2009 01:00:

Thanks to Sexypunk for hosting.

I'm pretty happy with this one. I've been wanting to use tracks 10,11 and 13 in a mix for a long time now and it was great to be finally able to do that.

Waterfront is from a 2003 album and I'd only ever heard it on a mix DVD. This year I decided I wanted to have it, so I had to email the artist, drive to his house and pick up one of the few copies of the album he had left. It was definitely worth it though. Great track and a good ending to the mix I think.

Overall, this starts pretty sedately (around 126 BPM), but I tried to make it really peak towards the end. I hope some of you enjoy it.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-09-2009 01:15:

I've got a stack of things to listen to and review right now, so I'm not promising a quick response, but I've downloaded all your mixes since 12 Hours and I'll make no exception here.

One thing I will say is that you rely quite heavily on a few artists. Dousk, Jaia, Fitalic and FREq in particular.


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-09-2009 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've got a stack of things to listen to and review right now, so I'm not promising a quick response, but I've downloaded all your mixes since 12 Hours and I'll make no exception here.

One thing I will say is that you rely quite heavily on a few artists. Dousk, Jaia, Fitalic and FREq in particular.


I know.

I do try with every set to work unique stuff in. It's not laziness that makes me use the same artists over and over - it's just that I struggle to find artists who come anywhere close to equalling the work of those you mentioned.

If I ever get round to mixing techno or traditional house again, you would find a wider range of artists present in those kind of sets.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-10-2009 17:56:

Really enjoyed this one. 12 Hours was always my favourite of your mixes, and although the subsequent ones have been solid, they never felt as satisfying. This one really hit the spot. I especially liked the first few tracks, and the way you eased into the set, but the main section of the mix was great stuff too, and I liked how you brought it down to a smooth close. Nice flow and mixing from start to finish.

The only bit I didn't like was the horribly cheesy spoken sample on the Liquid Soul track.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-10-2009 20:09:


Posted by Adam420 on Oct-11-2009 02:10:

ohh missed this. in.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-12-2009 08:28:

Three listens now. This is really good stuff man

It reminds me of some of my clubbing nights in the UK, circa 2000, 2001. That nice, driving prog sound.

The mixing was awesome, as usual. The flow was WICKED. Such a good build up through the mix, without any style glitches between tracks to mess with the energy.

Very nice work.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-12-2009 17:02:

So I must say, this set is really good, lots of mint stuff here. The first few tracks were good to build up, but I really wasn't a fan of the third track for some reason. It just didn't get me going. After the fifth track, you started building up your energy and the music starts to make you move and dance. The flow is spot on, no mistakes there. I can tell that not all of this was mixed harmonically, but by no means is that a bad thing, your mixing style just gets me used to flawless key-appropriate transitions.

I loved the set progression, at first I was expecting a lot of drum loops and no melodies, riffs, or basslines at all. The bassline that hopped out in the 2nd track kinda took me aback, I wasn't expecting it, then it dropped off for a little while. As the set continued, the bassline picked up, and that's the kind of energy progression I love. To be honest, I really didn't like the last track, I felt like you could have finished stronger, but to each his own. I enjoyed this more than any other house set that I've ever heard, and I will keep my eyes out for more!

Great job


Posted by Magadansky on Oct-12-2009 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Dousk, Jaia, Fitalic and FREq in particular.

Well they certainly never disappoint. Downloading!


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-12-2009 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Really enjoyed this one. 12 Hours was always my favourite of your mixes, and although the subsequent ones have been solid, they never felt as satisfying. This one really hit the spot. I especially liked the first few tracks, and the way you eased into the set, but the main section of the mix was great stuff too, and I liked how you brought it down to a smooth close. Nice flow and mixing from start to finish.

The only bit I didn't like was the horribly cheesy spoken sample on the Liquid Soul track.


That's funny that you say that; because I find this set a bit unsatisfying. While I felt my others have had a conclusive end, I almost regret that I didn't make this a two or three hour mix. To me, the final track feels like a potential bridge into a second hour of trancier, faster music. Glad you enjoyed it though; I'm happy with it.

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Three listens now. This is really good stuff man

It reminds me of some of my clubbing nights in the UK, circa 2000, 2001. That nice, driving prog sound.

The mixing was awesome, as usual. The flow was WICKED. Such a good build up through the mix, without any style glitches between tracks to mess with the energy.

Very nice work.


Cheers mate. More clubs need to play the banging yet deep-ish progressive sound, I know!


quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
So I must say, this set is really good, lots of mint stuff here. The first few tracks were good to build up, but I really wasn't a fan of the third track for some reason. It just didn't get me going. After the fifth track, you started building up your energy and the music starts to make you move and dance. The flow is spot on, no mistakes there. I can tell that not all of this was mixed harmonically, but by no means is that a bad thing, your mixing style just gets me used to flawless key-appropriate transitions.

I loved the set progression, at first I was expecting a lot of drum loops and no melodies, riffs, or basslines at all. The bassline that hopped out in the 2nd track kinda took me aback, I wasn't expecting it, then it dropped off for a little while. As the set continued, the bassline picked up, and that's the kind of energy progression I love. To be honest, I really didn't like the last track, I felt like you could have finished stronger, but to each his own. I enjoyed this more than any other house set that I've ever heard, and I will keep my eyes out for more!


Thanks for the length review. All of this was mixed harmonically, at least to my ears. You may have felt the mixing was weaker than previous efforts because I went for far longer and more gradual transitions than usual, which potentially gives elements more time to clash.

This wasn't really a house set, by the way. That tag was a bit tongue-in-cheek. Tracks 8-13 would probably be considered trance, especially since they were at around 135 BPM, which is unusual for house.

On the last track, I think you will find this is 'real' psy-trance in the traditional sense, as opposed to Goa, full-on or progressive. It would perhaps be worth investigating more tracks to see if there's anything you like.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-13-2009 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
That's funny that you say that; because I find this set a bit unsatisfying. While I felt my others have had a conclusive end, I almost regret that I didn't make this a two or three hour mix. To me, the final track feels like a potential bridge into a second hour of trancier, faster music. Glad you enjoyed it though; I'm happy with it.

It's hard to top mixes like Contact/12 Hours/Mimesis. You're a talented DJ but it's hard to make each mix better than your last! I think it was good to stop the set where you did, I would way rather listen to a faster mix separate.


quote:
Thanks for the length review. All of this was mixed harmonically, at least to my ears. You may have felt the mixing was weaker than previous efforts because I went for far longer and more gradual transitions than usual, which potentially gives elements more time to clash.

There were times when I was listening and felt like the transition had been banging out for a little too long, but it didn't feel rough at all, your mixing was pretty smooth but not as smooth as your previous efforts. Still good tho

quote:
This wasn't really a house set, by the way. That tag was a bit tongue-in-cheek. Tracks 8-13 would probably be considered trance, especially since they were at around 135 BPM, which is unusual for house.

I noticed that it became quite the trance set after the fifth track, but it still had a housey vibe. All the artists you played toward the end were trance/psytrance artists, but you selected lighter/groovier tracks. The tempo did pick up considerably and I felt that was very appropriate.

quote:
On the last track, I think you will find this is 'real' psy-trance in the traditional sense, as opposed to Goa, full-on or progressive. It would perhaps be worth investigating more tracks to see if there's anything you like.

Yes, I do enjoy straight up psytrance... I played one of those toward the end of my set, I'm sure you will be able to tell which one it is

I appreciated this set, make a stomper next!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2009 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
That's funny that you say that; because I find this set a bit unsatisfying. While I felt my others have had a conclusive end, I almost regret that I didn't make this a two or three hour mix. To me, the final track feels like a potential bridge into a second hour of trancier, faster music. Glad you enjoyed it though; I'm happy with it.


I'm not a massive fan of longer DJ sets for home listening. There's a different style of programming required for a longer set, and it's pretty difficult to keep a set taut and interesting.

John Digweed said something about how a DJ set in a club over several hours involves a series of anthemic peaks balanced out with plenty of lower-key tracks so the dancefloor doesn't get knackered. On a mix CD he cuts out the low-key tracks and just plays the best in a concentrated dose. I agree, and 60-80 minutes is an ideal length for a set at home.


Posted by Magadansky on Oct-13-2009 16:02:

Just took a listen. First, I think this is not house set in its literal sense, since this music is much closer to the progpsy genre than to house (which is a good thing considering my tastes ). I loved the first track, excellent bassline and nice groove that really set a wonderful mood. All the tracks actually have that mood even though some of them were faster or meaner (if mean is even the exact word but cant find a better one). Definitely a set for home as previous posters said, this has to be experienced in a nice sofa, beer on the table next to you and a beautiful view, somewhere far from the city. It was really relaxing for me.

Mixing was good and it didn't ruin the flow in any moment. It doesn't need to be harmonic, actually I prefer to understand when a new track kicks in so for me mixing was spot on. Can't think of any negative remarks, the set had a purpose and it fulfilled it. Well done!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2009 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Definitely a set for home as previous posters said, this has to be experienced in a nice sofa, beer on the table next to you and a beautiful view, somewhere far from the city. It was really relaxing for me.


Eh? Nobody has said that. I think this shit would go down a storm in a club. 135bpm prog is not sofa music, unless you're a grooveless speed demon.


Posted by Magadansky on Oct-13-2009 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Eh? Nobody has said that. I think this shit would go down a storm in a club. 135bpm prog is not sofa music, unless you're a grooveless speed demon.

BPM for me has to do nothing in my opinion towards is this relaxing or pumping music. Yeah, some tracks in the set (actually almost all of them) would work in a club but they also have relaxing melodies, atmospheres (in most of the part) which are enough for me to feel relaxed. 160 bpm music can also be made in a relaxing way. The groove which you mention is completely subjective for sofa or club music. Even some ambient has a groove that can shake my ass but would I appreciate in club while wanting some dancing? No. This is what I meant.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-13-2009 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Even some ambient has a groove that can shake my ass

I would pay money to see you shake your ass to Ambient


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2009 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
BPM for me has to do nothing in my opinion towards is this relaxing or pumping music.


On a dancefloor, the bottom end gives a track its energy, because that's where the kinetic energy that you literally feel through your body comes from. A house beat has a bass drum on every beat, so the BPM is directly relevant to the energy level. It's not just the physical sensation of bass regularly hitting your ribcage. Prominent tempos affect your heart and breathing rates, so the higher the tempo, the faster your heart beats. That's more or less the antithesis of "relaxing".

I'm not saying this set doesn't work at home, because it does. But I strongly disagree that this is relaxing sofa-music. Apart from the opening couple of tracks it's big-room club music.


Posted by Magadansky on Oct-13-2009 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
On a dancefloor, the bottom end gives a track its energy, because that's where the kinetic energy that you literally feel through your body comes from. A house beat has a bass drum on every beat, so the BPM is directly relevant to the energy level. It's not just the physical sensation of bass regularly hitting your ribcage. Prominent tempos affect your heart and breathing rates, so the higher the tempo, the faster your heart beats. That's more or less the antithesis of "relaxing".

I'm not saying this set doesn't work at home, because it does. But I strongly disagree that this is relaxing sofa-music. Apart from the opening couple of tracks it's big-room club music.

Well I guess, judging by your explanation, that my heart is so used to high BPM that it feels this style as relaxation.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-13-2009 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Well I guess, judging by your explanation, that my heart is so used to high BPM that it feels this style as relaxation.

+1

I was grooving to this set but I wasn't banging my head and rocking out. I'm sure if it was at a club it would be a different story, I would probably dance!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2009 19:38:

This is probably because you're both big psy-heads who are used to 140 and above.


Posted by Magadansky on Oct-13-2009 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is probably because you're both big psy-heads who are used to 140 and above.

Actually as much as I am a psy head, I am also an ambient fan so I really know what makes me feel relaxed and that is not the bpm, its the atmosphere created by the track. I can give you an example with Blue Planet Corporation's Atoll


Its 150 bpm, however I am feeling relaxed after listening to it. Anyway, we are really off topic now so I will just say to whoever still hadn't listen to the set to do it now since its a very nice one!


Posted by TwoHardCore on Oct-14-2009 23:56:

Domesticated/Stub, another nice set you've shared mate!

I like your no-nonsense approach to track selection, which is to say I think the tracks all fit your set-theme well, and are nicely chosen! I've only heard a few of these tracks before, and would probably use one or two in one of my mixes if I had them, like Liquid Soul - Unannounced Portal. Your mixing IMO was very well done.

If you like the bangin progressive sound, you might like my inPSYsors set (see sig). Aside from the mixing (which isn't horrible), I think you'd probably like it.

Cheers & thanks for sharing another good set,

THC


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Oct-15-2009 13:24:

Well, first off I love how you include the 'album art' and tracklist in the zipfile, that's a really good idea. Secondly, I really loved the first half of the mix and repeatedly played it over and over. This is one of my favorite styles of music, that sadly, not a lot of people play out nowadays. There were a couple prog-psy elements towards the later portion of the mix that I wasn't feeling as much as the classic 2000-era progressive in the beginning/middle.


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