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Posted by Lira on Oct-09-2009 13:57:

Obama wins Nobel Prize, Lira is amused

I like the guy and I'm really happy for him but it doesn't make sense just yet:
quote:
(CNN) -- President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, a stunning decision that comes just eight months into his presidency.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The decision appeared to catch most observers by surprise.

The president had not been mentioned as among front-runners for the prize, and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, uttered Obama's name.

Nominations for the prize had to be postmarked by February 1 -- only 12 days after Obama took office. The committee sent out its solicitation for nominations last September -- two months before Obama was elected president.

The president, who was awakened to be told he had won, said he was humbled to be selected, according to an administration official.

Obama will make a statement Friday at 10:30 a.m. ET from the Rose Garden, administration officials said.

The Nobel committee recognized Obama's efforts to solve complex global problems including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said.

Jagland said the decision was "unanimous" and came with ease.

He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population," it said.

Obama's recognition comes less than a year after he became the first African-American to win the White House. He is the fourth U.S. president to win the prestigious prize and the third sitting president to do so.

Jagland said he hoped the prize would help Obama resolve the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Listen to Jagland explain why Obama was this year's choice »

Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, last year's laureate, said it was clear the Nobel committee wanted to encourage Obama on the issues he has been discussing on the world stage.

"I see this as an important encouragement," Ahtisaari said.

The committee wanted to be "far more daring" than in recent times and make an impact on global politics, said Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of the International Peace Research Institute.

And Wangari Muta Maathai, the Kenyan environmentalist who won the 2004 Peace Prize, said the win for Obama, whose father was Kenyan, would help Africa move forward.

"I think it is extraordinary," she said. "It will be even greater inspiration for the world. He has shown how we can probably come together, work together in a cooperative way."

The award comes at a crucial time for Obama, who has initiated peace missions to key parts of the globe.

Obama's envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, has returned to the region to advocate for peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. Mitchell met Thursday with Israeli President Shimon Peres. He plans to meet Friday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before talking with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton starts a six-day trip to Europe and Russia on Friday. On the trip, the secretary will discuss the next steps on Iran and North Korea, and international efforts to have the two countries end their nuclear programs.

The centerpiece of the trip will be her visit to Moscow, where she will work toward an agreement to take the place of the Start II arms control pact, which expires December 5. She also will address the new bilateral presidential commission that is working on a broad range of issues, from arms control to health.

Mohamed ElBaradei, who won the 2005 peace prize for his efforts to prevent nuclear energy being used for military means, said Obama deserved to win for his efforts to bring Iran to the table for direct nuclear talks with the United States.

"I could not think of anybody who is more deserving," said ElBaradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Listen to ElBaradei react to the announcement »

As the news of Obama's win broke online, postings on social network sites Twitter and Facebook expressed surprise. Many started with the word: Wow.

The last sitting U.S. president to win the peace prize was Woodrow Wilson in 1919. The other was Theodore Roosevelt in 1906. Jimmy Carter had been out of office for more than two decades when he won in 2002.

This year's Peace Prize nominees included 172 people -- among them three Chinese dissidents, an Afghan activist and a controversial Colombian lawmaker -- and 33 organizations, the highest number of nominations ever.

The Nobel recipient receives a prize of about $1.4 million.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/e...rize/index.html

I realise he's probably the best thing that could've happened in American politics after George W. Bush, but this is a tad bit premature, isn't it?

Edit: I feel a stream of win is going to flow out of this. Bring it on!


Posted by Sunsnail on Oct-09-2009 13:58:

Way to trivialize the prize


Posted by jonSun on Oct-09-2009 14:01:

I call bullshit. Bush doesn't get the prize after 8 years of presidency & Obama gets it after 8 months.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-09-2009 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
I call bullshit. Bush doesn't get the prize after 8 years of presidency & Obama gets it after 8 months.

Just because you're the president doesn't mean you win the fucking nobel prize. W was a shitty president, Obama has been a pretty damn good one so far.


Posted by The17sss on Oct-09-2009 14:10:

lol... forgive me for asking, but what has he actually done to win this award? Al Gore in 2007, Jimmy Carter in 2002, now this- looks more like the standard "fuck Bush" award to me. Besides, once Yasser Arafat won it, it lost all its credibility anyway.


Posted by yukii on Oct-09-2009 14:11:

i love obama but,

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
I call bullshit.


Posted by UWM on Oct-09-2009 14:12:

Yeah I'm not quite sure about this.


Posted by Capitalizt on Oct-09-2009 14:17:


Posted by Scoops on Oct-09-2009 14:29:

you know billy clinton has to be pist as hell

man goes to North Korea frees 2 americans while obama is on letterman and obama gets peace prize.
this country is funny.


Posted by Lira on Oct-09-2009 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
you know billy clinton has to be pist as hell

man goes to North Korea frees 2 americans while obama is on letterman and obama gets peace prize.
this country is funny.

This is exactly the kind of thing I don't understand. Were the girls his prize or something?


Posted by david.michael on Oct-09-2009 14:32:

"The committee wanted to be 'far more daring' than in recent times and make an impact on global politics"

What the fuck? An award based on intent? That would seem to defeat the purpose, no? Especially considering the nomination was put in 12 days into his presidency...

Supposed to be making a statement here in a few minutes.


Posted by sensorium on Oct-09-2009 14:33:

nominated feb 1st? what exactly did he do in so little time? something is wrong here.


Posted by david.michael on Oct-09-2009 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
this country is funny.


I didn't realize you were Norwegian... Heisann!


Posted by HardTranceProd on Oct-09-2009 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
you know billy clinton has to be pist as hell

man goes to North Korea frees 2 americans while obama is on letterman and obama gets peace prize.
this country is funny.


Did you mean Norway when you said "this country?"


Posted by david.michael on Oct-09-2009 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
nominated feb 1st? what exactly did he do in so little time? something is wrong here.


He was nominated for "good intentions". How ridiculous... You don't award someone for what you hope they will do.


Posted by Acton on Oct-09-2009 14:52:

I lol'd at this earlier today when I saw it in the news! What do you expect though? Obama is the second coming of Christ after all.


Posted by Scoops on Oct-09-2009 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Did you mean Norway when you said "this country?"


yes i did


Posted by sensorium on Oct-09-2009 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
He was nominated for "good intentions". How ridiculous... You don't award someone for what you hope they will do.

then, for the sake of the minute credibility the award had, he better start solving international issues, specially that one war this country started.


Posted by Meat187 on Oct-09-2009 14:56:

Pretty bad decision imho.
In the scientific categories it is common practice to give to those people whose work has proven to be a valueable contribution over the years. Like the guys who won the physics prize for inventing the CCD some 40 years ago. Only after some time one can acknowledge the importance and scope of certain things. So I don't think Obama, who has been president only for a few months, should be given a prize when the importance and success of his doings is still very much unclear.
Probably the idea is more to commit him to doing more for peace and earn the prize by his future actions. But surely they could have found someone who already has done something worthy.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-09-2009 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
then, for the sake of the minute credibility the award had, he better start solving international issues, specially that one war this country started.

Agreed, after his first term he had better have cured cancer as far as I'm concerned.


Posted by denys envy on Oct-09-2009 14:59:

it's an obamination!


Posted by TranceOwnsLol on Oct-09-2009 15:00:


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Oct-09-2009 15:04:

What you guys do not understand is that the Europeans secretly had plans to invade and destroy the US if the Republicans had maintained control... So by Obama being elected he averted World War III...


Posted by Scottaculous on Oct-09-2009 15:17:

There is peace in the world because the world is too busy arguing how win/fail Obama is.


Posted by Acton on Oct-09-2009 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
it's an obamination!





quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
What you guys do not understand is that the Europeans secretly had plans to invade and destroy the US if the Republicans had maintained control... So by Obama being elected he averted World War III...


This is the only plausible explanation.


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