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Posted by princesultan on Oct-09-2009 15:13:

Thoughts on Obama winning the Nobel prize?

What do you guys think about it?

Personally, Obama can't do any wrong in my books, so I'm down, lol.

I do think he's making big steps in terms of multilateral talks...it all starts there.


Posted by malek on Oct-09-2009 15:25:

What did he do to deserve that???


Posted by princesultan on Oct-09-2009 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
What did he do to deserve that???


Well for one, he's cool, lol.


Posted by malek on Oct-09-2009 15:37:

I'm cool too, can I have a nobel prize?


Posted by princesultan on Oct-09-2009 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I'm cool too, can I have a nobel prize?


maybe.

fine, he hasn't accomplished anything yet, and maybe it's not fully deserved, but i think they're recognizing the steps that are being taken to overcome a lot of barriers that are currently in place. to me, that's very notable.


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-09-2009 15:46:

Bush can make anyone look good after (as long as it's trimmed)


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-09-2009 16:46:

How can anyone who is in war even receive that? Makes no sense to me. Go to any middle eastern country and ask them what they think about that


Posted by djlemeir on Oct-09-2009 16:53:

did clinton get one?


Posted by kanaBEATya on Oct-09-2009 16:57:

It's just ironic that Alfred Nobel actually invented dynamite and owned a company that made guns! Who wants to be the next Peace Nobel prize winner?


Posted by Marcus007 on Oct-09-2009 17:23:

ridiculous...

dalai lama should have won this

wtf has obama done?

peace in the middle east? NOPE
peace in asia? NOPE
peace in africa? NOPE
peace in south america? NOPE
peace in north america? NOPE.

SO WHY DID HE WIN THIS?


Posted by Trancission on Oct-09-2009 17:54:

Totally undeserved. The same questions, What did he achieve.

From a middle eastern point of view, the only difference between the Obama and Bush is that the first understands that Muslims or what they like to call radical Muslims cannot be be dealt with by only power, he understands the nature of the people and knows that to achiev something, they should sit and talk to them, maybe negotiate.

Anyways so far all what he he did is the continuous blindness support to Israel who violates the international law everyday hundreds of times in Lebanon and Palestine.


Posted by sonic monkey on Oct-09-2009 18:09:

I think it`s completely deserved. Although Obama doesnt have any concrete results in his hand, it was his political vision and agenda that made him won the award. You have to understand that he represents the most dangerous country in the world yet his administration has a radically different political approach then Bush`s. His incentive to reduce nuclear proliferation and promote global peace negociations is something to be appreciated for, and worthy of a Nobel Peace prize.


Posted by kanaBEATya on Oct-09-2009 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by sonic monkey
His incentive to reduce nuclear proliferation and promote global peace negociations is something to be appreciated for, and worthy of a Nobel Peace prize.


... ya, when it'll be accomplished.


Posted by sonic monkey on Oct-09-2009 18:35:

It`s not gonna happen overnight.
It's gonna take maybe a decade or so. I don't think the Nobel peace prize was centered around accomplishments for Obama.


Posted by julien2 on Oct-09-2009 18:46:

I hate that people never take the time to actually check what is going on.

The Nobel Prize people are fully aware that he has not done much yet.

They said they were awarding this prize for hope and to encourage him to do more multilateral talks.

This prize is highly political and is fully understandable, since this is the first time in 8 years that actually wants to speak to other countries.

That's what this prize is about.


Posted by kanaBEATya on Oct-09-2009 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
I hate that people never take the time to actually check what is going on.



It's not about taking the time or not to know what's going on. The question in this thread is "what do you think about it"?

What I think is that it's not fair for anyone else who has accomplished something tangible to serve this world in the past. Did they ever get a prize for hope or to support their initial idea? Probably not. Will they ever get a prize in recognition of their life-time committment? I guess not if the Noble Prize committe keeps giving Prizes to people like Obama. A man, who yes, shows lots of promise, but still hasn't done much yet - the man had only been in power 2 weeks before his name was submitted as a candidate for the Nobel prize award. I think there are other ways to support Obama than to give him the Nobel Prize right away. I like Obama and I wish him luck.


Posted by julien2 on Oct-09-2009 20:09:

I see that my previous message was not complete.

I agree with you, but as I said, with a little research you will find out that the Nobel Peace Prize is highly political and this attribution is not only understandable but also interesting.

The Nobel Prize wants to point out that for the first time in 8 years a president is willing to act as a "friendly" super-power. They also recognize that Obama was opposed to Irak and, AFAIK, opposed to Afghanistan (please correct me if I'm wrong on that one).

I also think this is prematured but on a political, symbolical and diplomatic level, this is highly interesting and cleverly done.


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-09-2009 20:15:

it's also a testament (and statement) to how bad Bush stunk (pun intended...sort of)


Posted by sonic monkey on Oct-09-2009 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
this is prematured but on a political, symbolical and diplomatic level, this is highly interesting and cleverly done.


100% agree with you.


Posted by OkiDokie on Oct-09-2009 22:16:

I don't know what to think about this, there's not a lot of people who are working for the peace nowdays, so yes, at least he's doing something

On the other hand since he's being president, south america's political situation is the worst ever seen in the last century,yet he doesn't say nor does shit....

Ohh and I don't wanna talk about the situation in Iran or North Korea


Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-10-2009 00:12:

Obama's speech acknowledged the fact he didn't deserve this based on achievements (even if being the first black US President is remarkable by itself)

"
This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

/This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.
/
So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama "


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-10-2009 00:58:

his speech writer is genius


Posted by sonic monkey on Oct-10-2009 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
his speech writer is genius


Not really, the tone of this message is typical Obama.
Modest, humble and ambitious but let's see how he handles himself during the course of his presidency to see if he can back up his rhethoric.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-10-2009 03:44:


Posted by Spin Laden on Oct-10-2009 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by sonic monkey
Not really, the tone of this message is typical Obama.
Modest, humble and ambitious but let's see how he handles himself during the course of his presidency to see if he can back up his rhethoric.


agreed but the collab, Obama and his, imo, genius speechwriters makes for that. Speechwriters are heavily underrated.



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