Ableton: can you make a complete track just using the arrangement view or not?!

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Posted by Dance123 on Oct-12-2009 16:48:

Ableton: can you make a complete track just using the arrangement view or not?!

Can you use Ableton Live and just use the arrangement view to make a complete track and only use the session view for the mixer panel or is it necessary to use those cells in the session view to make tracks?

Do you really need to work with those cells or could you make your entire track just using the arrangement view?!

Posted by Acton on Oct-12-2009 16:52:

Re: Ableton: can you make just using the arrangement view or not?!

quote:
Originally posted by Dance123
could you make your entire track just using the arrangement view?!

Ermmm, yes. You can.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-12-2009 16:58:

then whats the point using ableton at all? the session view is what ableton is imo, and whats separates it from others, if ur not using it u might as well go with a diferent daw which is better in the arangement part of stuff, like reaper.

Posted by Dance123 on Oct-12-2009 17:14:

I haven't tried ableton yet but i like the clean interface and internal effects etc based on the youtube vids I have seen.. just wondering if you can do a complete track just using the arrangement view?

Or is that session view with its cells somehow essential to get all the sequencing features?

Anybody can say some more about this please?! Thanks alot!!

Posted by cryophonik on Oct-12-2009 17:20:

Well, there's not a whole lot left to say. In arrangement view, Live works like a linear sequencer/arranger. That's the only way I use it, BTW, but it's not my primary DAW. It's not as deep or full-featured as many of the more popular DAWs out there (e.g., Sonar, Cubase, Logic, etc.), but there's a lot to be said for its simplicity and for the numerous useful and nicely implemented features that Live does have.

Posted by Alekos on Oct-12-2009 18:20:

I use Ableton as a slave within Logic - It doesn't get any better imo

Posted by Nightshift on Oct-12-2009 18:46:

U can use only the arrangement view if you'd like.

however i dont see why you would, learning how to use the session AND arrangement view interchangably is how to optimize getting your ideas out in ableton

think of session view as a sketch pad and arrangement view as the overall canvas.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-12-2009 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Alekos
I use Ableton as a slave within Logic - It doesn't get any better imo

interesting... how and why. what do u actualy gain from it?

Posted by Cryogen on Oct-12-2009 20:32:

You can definitely make a track using just the Arrangement View, that's what it's for. Session View is for Live Sessions, triggering clips on the fly etc, hence the name Session View. You can mix the two up but you don't have to.

Posted by Cryogen on Oct-13-2009 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SDM
interesting... how and why. what do u actualy gain from it?

Ableton is slaved into Logic via Rewire. Audio editing is much easier in Ableton though it's supposed to be better now Logic has Flex Time.

Posted by IceColdWater on Oct-13-2009 10:30:

Does it really matter? Afterall what comes out in the end is more important.

Posted by Stylz on Oct-13-2009 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Nightshift
U can use only the arrangement view if you'd like.

however i dont see why you would, learning how to use the session AND arrangement view interchangably is how to optimize getting your ideas out in ableton

think of session view as a sketch pad and arrangement view as the overall canvas.

Pretty much this^

It all boils down to what you are most comfortable/effecient with. I prefer the workflow in Ableton. The session view is easier for me to try out different ideas.

Posted by Kthought on Oct-14-2009 02:15:

abletons workflow is the nuts.