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Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:00:

People from other cultures of the c0re: I require your insight.

I need to write a paper about how one concept of a nursing theorist's work relates to practice. I have chosen Leininger's theory of transcultural nursing.

I have to include in the appendix a scenario that relates to the application of this theory (my paper is going to be developed from this scenario), except I haven't had any personal experience trying to meet the care needs of someone with a vastly different culture than mine.

We *are* allowed to make up a scenario, but the only thing I can think of is Jehova's Witnesses and blood transfusions.

So what I'm wondering is, are there any peeps in the c0re who's cultural needs/values would cause conflict in a traditional/Western care setting? Tell me about your cultural beliefs/practices/values!

Feel free to throw ideas out there too.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 16:04:

yea i can only think of Jehova's too.

there was an episode of House that had to do with this i think, i can't remember the details though lol


Posted by Lira on Oct-20-2009 16:04:

Could you tell us a bit more about this theory? I live in a different continent, speak a different language, but I'm not sure what kind of cultural differences could be useful to you.

Would patients that would rather be operated by spiritual doctors be of any relevance to your scenario?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:05:

It's just such a common and played-out conflict. I want to investigate something new/more challenging/that I'm actually interested to learn about. :/


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-20-2009 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
It's just such a common and played-out conflict. I want to investigate something new/more challenging/that I'm actually interested to learn about. :/


Yeah, well that's what you get for choosing such a lame topic.


Posted by Capitalizt on Oct-20-2009 16:07:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...led-months.html


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 16:07:

You should somehow incorporate time travel into this paper.


Posted by MSZ on Oct-20-2009 16:09:

foreskin


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Could you tell us a bit more about this theory? I live in a different continent, speak a different language, but I'm not sure what kind of cultural differences could be useful to you.

Would patients that would rather be operated by spiritual doctors be of any relevance to your scenario?





Yes of course it's relevant. All your differences are relevant. Ummm, I dunno if this helps or makes sense...but it's Leininger's Sunrise theoretical/conceptual model...which is used as a tool to work through culturally sensitive care situations.


Posted by Lira on Oct-20-2009 16:10:

Edit: Wait, I just read your last post. I'm not going to delete this one in case this is useful as well, but I haven't read your direct reply to me yet.
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
It's just such a common and played-out conflict. I want to investigate something new/more challenging/that I'm actually interested to learn about. :/

How 'bout traditional nursing and acupuncture? You were talking about it just days ago.

Edit 2: Well, I know some people down here would rather be (also) operated by a spiritual doctor, dodgy as it is. I'm sure that may happen in the US as well, and it could be an interesting topic


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 16:11:

So much horseshit, just fucking tranq them and do what you have to do. Or don't, who cares?

In conclusion, labia.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by msz
foreskin


good one!

something about having to remove it on an orthodox jew or something? lol


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
How 'bout traditional nursing and acupuncture? You were talking about it just days ago.



No that's too vague. I'm thinking more like, say, providing care to an aboriginal person. This would mean I'd have to consider their worldview and know which factors are the most important...which would further relate to their care practices. So like, I couldn't just tell an aboriginal woman to "take these meds" or "you HAVE to have x treatment or you'll die", because in their culture they use natural medicine, and they value life and death differently.

Or back to the JW example...it's a conflict because religion is the most important factor in their world view. So I would somehow have to incorporate that need into the care I provide for them.




edit: The foreskin one is actually good, lol.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 16:27:

ask chimera if there is anything about kenyan culture and religion that might apply.


Posted by Banora on Oct-20-2009 16:38:

While it isn't my culture, I know there is problems in India with patients refusing treatment because the doctor/nurse isn't from their clan or sacredly ordained.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-20-2009 16:44:

Fucking unfathomable. NEXT IN LINE, PLEASE!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Banora
While it isn't my culture, I know there is problems in India with patients refusing treatment because the doctor/nurse isn't from their clan or sacredly ordained.




Ooooh that could be good.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-20-2009 16:47:

Tell them that their culture sucks and that their kids or grand kids will have abandoned the sacred traditions and be preferring your godless style of medicine within fifty years anyway.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 16:48:


Posted by trunks1022 on Oct-20-2009 17:05:

i'm not sure what people on the boards here view of psychological/psychiatric help, but in asian cultures, the idea of going to see someone for such problems is considered taboo. there's no such thing as a mental problem (or the thought process is something similar) in east asia, and that any mental issues can and should be solved by the individual without any help. i guess the best way to show this is depression. depression is seen as a mental illness here, but it doesn't "exist" in asia. people would just say, snap out of it, pick yourself up kinda thing, and would not suggest going to see a professional for help.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-20-2009 17:11:

I actually just Googled "cultural nursing case scenarios" and got a sweet page that covers a few different cultures. I actually remember one of these examples being used last year in one of my classes...wewt!

http://www.culturediversity.org/asia.htm


Example 6.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Oct-20-2009 17:21:

i think that link is too overgeneralizing

for example they say that Asians "generally consider it impolite to accept something the first time it is offered." in korean culture, it's the opposite- it's rude to not accept something offered to you. for example, say you don't drink but someone offers you an alcoholic beverage- you pretty much gotta take it anyways and pretend to drink it. weird, i know.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-20-2009 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i think that link is too overgeneralizing

for example they say that Asians "generally consider it impolite to accept something the first time it is offered." in korean culture, it's the opposite- it's rude to not accept something offered to you. for example, say you don't drink but someone offers you an alcoholic beverage- you pretty much gotta take it anyways and pretend to drink it. weird, i know.


i wouldn't call it weird but more like selfish lol what's the point of offering a fucking drink to someone if you're just going to force them to drink what YOU want them to drink/what's convenient for you?

no offense, just sayin...


Posted by Banora on Oct-20-2009 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i think that link is too overgeneralizing

for example they say that Asians "generally consider it impolite to accept something the first time it is offered." in korean culture, it's the opposite- it's rude to not accept something offered to you. for example, say you don't drink but someone offers you an alcoholic beverage- you pretty much gotta take it anyways and pretend to drink it. weird, i know.


I know in Japan it is very rude to accept something the first time (supposedly it makes it seem like you were expecting them to ask or offer). Usually you have to refuse twice then accept on the third time asked.


Posted by Ian on Oct-20-2009 17:27:

I always find getting rid of the scores of jehovahs easy. When they knock shout "blood fight" and tell them they have 5 seconds to hide. Usually it works. If not i could do with a small poouch of it to pierce & squirt towards them

not really on topic, but yeah. they grind my gears.


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