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Posted by we_R_DNA on Oct-21-2009 13:19:

Social networks the CIA and data mining

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If someone told you that the CIA was spying on you by way of your Twitter updates, Facebook posts, YouTube videos, or Amazon reviews, you�d probably chalk it up to a conspiracy theory.

But today we�re learning from Wired that the CIA�s technology arm In-Q-Tel has invested an undisclosed sum in Visible Technologies, a firm that provides software to companies like Microsoft for social media monitoring.

According to Wired, the investment is �part of a larger movement within the spy services to get better at using �open source intelligence� � information that�s publicly available, but often hidden.� The current plan is for the CIA to use the technology to monitor International intelligence shared in public channels to get an early edge on what�s being shared and communicated by influential voices. In addition, funds from the deal apparently will be allocated towards enhancing the foreign language monitoring capabilities of Visible Technologies .


http://mashable.com/2009/10/19/cia-social-media-monitoring/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/exclusive-us-spies-buy-stake-in-twitter-blog-monitoring-firm/


Posted by Lira on Oct-21-2009 14:16:

If the CIA browsed my stuff, they'd probably be puzzled and move on


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-21-2009 14:19:

I think it's a mischaracterization to call accessing data that people have chosen to publicize about themselves "spying." Once the information is public, it's no longer "spying," it's just research.

It's kind of amusing, really. DARPA's information awareness office got shut down in a storm of outrage for trying to accomplish essentially what people have voluntarily done to themselves by participating in these social networking websites.

It's no conspiracy, it's just ordinary intelligence policy. It is just plain naive to expect that the government won't take advantage of the serendipidous turn of events. All the data they've been itching to analyze but haven't been able to get the legal authority to collect has just been handed to them on a silver platter. It's not like they're extracting any information from people that they aren't voluntarily posting on these sites.


Posted by The17sss on Oct-21-2009 14:21:

meh... if the CIA wanted to keep something secret from "Wired", I'm pretty sure they could. If something like this is true, there has to be a reason as to why the CIA planted the seed to some no name reporter with Wired, of all places.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-21-2009 14:21:

but wouldn't it be spying if the person has all the privacy settings activated so only their "friends" can see the information they put out there? lol


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:07:

Maybe, but what are you going to do about it?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:10:

You mean like how the CIA thinks Jennypie in fact lives under a fat, old patient's hairy ass?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:18:

Exactly like Dogbert. He so crazeh.


Posted by Lira on Oct-21-2009 15:23:

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Originally posted by ********
The information may just be fiction.

Yeah, right, mister "I'm a maniac and I'm going to shoot all of yo-- just kidding, luv ya!". There are quite a few things that shouldn't be published if you don't mean it


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
I have to use though that duplication of that content for non fair use means would still constitute a breach of copyright, as the government would also need to gain access to use, and I would find it difficult that these backups of random information constituting a national security need for an injunction based on "needs" as I'm geussing most of the crap is entirely just that and has nothing to do with national security, and thus the government would be open to lawsuit for violation of copyright violations.
While media is available it is not able to be duplicated without consent, for resuse from a secondary source.


They don't plan on selling it though.


Posted by Lira on Oct-21-2009 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
I have my poetic liscence and I'm free to publish and communicate whatever I'd like.

True that, you just need to deal with the consequences where they apply


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-21-2009 15:38:

Who gives a fuck, to be honest? Unless you broadcast your illegal behaviour on a social networking site, what does it matter that a computer in Washington has your details on file? And if you do broadcast your illegal activities, you've no right to complain if they kick your door down.


Posted by ToF on Oct-21-2009 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Who gives a fuck, to be honest? Unless you broadcast your illegal behaviour on a social networking site, what does it matter that a computer in Washington has your details on file? And if you do broadcast your illegal activities, you've no right to complain if they kick your door down.

This. It's common sense really lol.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Who gives a fuck, to be honest? Unless you broadcast your illegal behaviour on a social networking site, what does it matter that a computer in Washington has your details on file? And if you do broadcast your illegal activities, you've no right to complain if they kick your door down.


But what if they kicked down your [parent's] door after that thread you made about smoking a joint? You'd still go to the same prison as any other nonce, not like 'unfairly prosecuted' prison.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 15:53:

It's not the facebook status they are going to bust you for, William. It's the children who now reside in your walls. Facebook just tells them where to search.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-21-2009 15:54:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
But what if they kicked down your [parent's] door after that thread you made about smoking a joint? You'd still go to the same prison as any other nonce, not like 'unfairly prosecuted' prison.


Your point being?


Posted by Slylee on Oct-21-2009 15:59:

yea i dont really see a big deal in the CIA monitoring my facebook page or life even. i'm really a boring nobody and doubt they would find anyting interesting about me.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 16:05:

I think you live far too much in a world of "shoulds". Your perception of the world and the consequential events spurred by your choices are not one in the same, nice as that would be sometimes. You should have pieced this together by now.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
I still have no idea about children residing in my walls, was this something about misinformation?


There you go.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 16:19:

You're drumming up a wall of text, aren't you, you fuck?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-21-2009 16:27:

We should live in a world without crime or violence, yet you still lock your door at night.* Apply the same principle here.





*Probably.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-21-2009 16:29:

A government that does not victimize something just isn't working right. 'Freedom' for one person means that you are taking away freedom from another entity - I'd say that regulating this is any government's duty, which means it is always in the practice of oppressing at least someone.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-21-2009 16:31:

seriously guys?

i see more of a point in trolling ME than getting into discussions about the government with ********


Posted by Ygrene on Oct-21-2009 16:34:

I would friend the CIA on Facebook.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-21-2009 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
seriously guys?

i see more of a point in trolling ME than getting into discussions about the government with ********


******** actually shares his gibberish when pressed for it.


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