Why is there so much hate on music forums?

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Posted by cryophonik on Oct-22-2009 00:01:

Why is there so much hate on music forums?

I mean, seriously, it's music! Why do we let it get under our skins?

And, for the record, I'm not just talking about TA. It happens everywhere. It's just that many other forums do a better job of controlling it. And, actually, I think that this is probably one of the less hostile environments, especially considering that it's self-moderated (for now).

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-22-2009 00:15:

Most people who care enough about music to post about it frequently on a site are passionate about it, which means that disagreements will be passionate as well. Honestly, TA is quite tame compared to boards based around topics like politics and religion, for example. Yes there are a lot of insults thrown around, but you will get that in any forum where people both care deeply about the topic and disagree about it. No big deal.

Posted by RichieV on Oct-22-2009 00:17:

things are usually civil till some retard starts posting obscenely retarded things in a guns blazing i'm the fucking god of the universe manner. They actually make it worthwhile.

Posted by BshidoHEAT on Oct-22-2009 00:34:

Re: Why is there so much hate on music forums?

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I mean, seriously, it's music! Why do we let it get under our skins?

I can tell you from my personal standpoint, it irks me when someone comes in and says "you can't make good music with FL Studio" or "FL Studio sucks, it's for noobs", or "FL Studio can only get you so far" etc etc etc...(ie: one of our recent threads here) because it's like people won't even give me a chance and listen and (sadly) I get that enough in real life. So it's irritating when people say that, but that's just me.

But my point of view aside, I'm going to agree with MrJBJ. I think everyone here is pretty passionate about music, this passion brings out the beast in all of us. And when an idiot comes in an makes an ass out of himself, the beast will rear it's ugly head and all war breaks loose.

Posted by EgosXII on Oct-22-2009 00:40:

above 2 posts have got it

when there are 2 really passionate people they're bound to clash...
like the muslims and the christians throughout history...

except they hacked each other up with swords, while we use the intrawebz...

Posted by derail on Oct-22-2009 00:44:

A lot of it may also come from personal frustration. It takes a while to get to a stage where you're able to create quality music.

So people will sometimes blame their tools and express their frustration. Or sometimes people have moved from one synth/DAW to another, and think of their new synth/DAW as "better", and may not fully take into consideration their added years of experience, or that it may be better for their personal style, but that the other synth/DAW is better for someone else.

Most of us have been through these frustrations, but not everyone comes onto forums and unleashes their personal frustrations on the world.

For the most part, this forum is fine, and with a good mod it should be pretty good.

Posted by johncannons1 on Oct-22-2009 03:45:

i think mostly because its not "real" life.Fair enough if people are passionate but it doesnt excuse rudeness or just being a downright nob!
when ppl throw actual harsh insults around i find that they usually think they're pretty big behind there computer screens and seem like that would be shit in person.

or they're just cocky/dumb/rude/stupid in real life and they're like that on here too.

i think all the anger is shit on these forums. it ruins ALOT of topics

usually you can trace it all back to a few ppl haha

Posted by cryophonik on Oct-22-2009 04:35:

Yeah, I agree with JDC. Regarding passion, I think it's entirely possible to be passionate about something, yet still have respectful differences of opinion without resorting to name-calling, etc. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that I'm above it and I've certainly had my ugly moments on TA and other forums, but over the last year or so, I've found that it's usually not worth the frustration of getting stuck in the middle of flame wars. Besides, I'm an old dude and my doc says I need to lower my blood pressure.

Regarding the "retards" that RichieV mentioned, yeah, they certainly do exist as evidenced by the moronic noob du jour, but I think I've finally just given up on trying to reason or argue with them. It never settles anything and often times both sides end up looking a little foolish. It's usually pretty clear when a person is talking out his backside, so I just don't see the sense in arguing - let them make their foolish comment and destroy their own credibility, then move on. But, I'm sure that a lot of people like to take the opportunity to bash them for several pages simply for the sheer joy of it (not judging - I may have been guilty of that once or twice as well... ).

OK, I think I'm babbling now, so I'll just shut up and get back to my studio...

Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Oct-22-2009 05:02:

I was going to post this SAME thread tonight but DIDN'T cause I'm so fed up of attitudes on this board if one more person does it I'm just never signing back on.

I'm a member at a bodybuilding board that has 108,000 members. And yes there is more passion in the political/religion based forums, BUT it is still largely different from this board imo.

For one reason, there is no consequences on this board. To some people that means free reign to other people that means they still need to have respect.

I consistently get into it with Egos cause the first thing he ever said to me made me realize what a pos he is. You DO NOT come at people with a condescending attitude and make fun of them for asking something they DON'T KNOW.
But for some reason he took it upon himself to think that I should have known, and that I was some sort of idiot cause I didn't.

THAT is the shit that urks me. If it had happened during an emotionally driven debate, thats different. He came out before I had said anything to him, completely condescending and rude as fvck.

And the ONLY reason I think he acted like that, hes because he knows noones gonna ban him for it. So passionate or not, some people always need to continually validate their ego, and untill a mod corrects it for them, they will most likely not correct it themself.

I use to have problems with other members that blew over rather quick. I think even at some point I had it out with jive, but that was a situation where I was equally at fault.
When however I start a thread and get bashed and treated like an idiot, by regulars, thats what makes me forget about the notion of peace completely.
Yeh its a forum, but so what? Does that mean you don't have to treat people with respect anymore? Thats what I consider true coward type shit. I could say the DUMBEST things in the world, troll my ass to hell, and still not consider myself as low as someone who attacks someone for not knowing something.

If its a question thats asked everyday I can see telling someone to search, but the question was never asked before. Then other people just like to joke too much when others arent in the mood and get insulted by it.
If I don't wanna crack jokes I dont wanna crack jokes. Plain and simple.

Posted by SoundMagus on Oct-22-2009 09:49:

Its very easy to hide behind a computer screen in the ether that is the internet, half of the flaming/insults etc would never happen face to face.

Also people are passionate and without moderation they let loose, ego is a hell of a thing, especially when mu first point is taken into consideration.

Posted by Notle on Oct-22-2009 10:00:

Nerds have big egos in internet (its their world).
And like Moby said EDM musicians are all nerds, theres the answer for your question.

Posted by echosystm on Oct-22-2009 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
if one more person does it I'm just never signing back on.

we have our fingers crossed.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I consistently get into it with Egos cause the first thing he ever said to me made me realize what a pos he is. wa wa wa i'm a girl.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I could say the DUMBEST things in the world

"could"

ps. nice try at sigpwning me. if that's the best you can come up with, you're clearly clutching at straws. in your case, it isn't very hard for the rest of us.

fyi, armin van buuren did a shout out to TT during the 5-year asot anniversary show. why would a famous dj and record label owner give praise to a music piracy site? i'll let you draw your own conclusions from that, genius.

Posted by floyd741 on Oct-22-2009 12:30:

There's so much hate because Ableton is the best DAW in the world and no one can seem to understand that.

Also, people are really attached to the music they listen to. Like, if you tell someone about a book you like and they say they didn't like it or it sucks, you don't care very much. But, if someone insults the music you like, you want to knock that motherfvcker out. People usually get really emotionally attached to their favorite songs/artists so when someone insults them, they feel hurt.

At least that's what I've noticed.

Posted by Cryogen on Oct-22-2009 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
There's so much hate because Ableton is the best DAW in the world and no one can seem to understand that.

Only if you're feeding it with an Andromeda. NO ONE has EVER made a good track without using analogue synthesis

Posted by hexadecimal on Oct-22-2009 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I was going to post this SAME thread tonight but DIDN'T cause I'm so fed up of attitudes on this board if one more person does it I'm just never signing back on.

OH NOES!!!11 DOENT DO IT!!!!11

Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-22-2009 16:57:

Keep up the flame wars and rants - they're the best entertainment on the net - see more below*.

I suspect a lot of heat stems from misunderstanding which in turn stems from the fact we each have our own versions of reality, and of course each of us is certain our version is 'the' version. One mans nice synth work is another's cheese helmet.

It's like comedy - as a Brit I find things like Freinds,Frasier and The Simpsons really tired and full of banal wise - cracks that you can see comming a mile away... stokes the flames. And as for the total utter shite that is ugly betty - why on this gods earth would anyone watch that shitpile

But I love the Brit version of the Office, but I can well imagine my yankee cousins hating it.

*THANKYOU AMERICANS BTW.
Seriously, I keep quoting lines of this website to by brother, they're so hilarious. We just love the way you dis each other.

One the other day was a torrent of spikeyness, followed by the single word 'filthy' and that one word made the whole rant just hilarious to my Brit sensibilities

Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-22-2009 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
There's so much hate because Ableton is the best DAW in the world and no one can seem to understand that.

F U, Reason 4ever

Posted by atxbigballer1 on Oct-22-2009 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
F U, Reason 4ever

What are u going to do when 5 comes out?
Are u still going to use 4 4ever?

Posted by DigiNut on Oct-23-2009 00:18:

People love to hate.

...What, you were expecting a detailed response? It's really that simple.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-23-2009 00:20:

Digi, are you the new Production Forum mod?

Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Oct-23-2009 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
we have our fingers crossed.

Your mom has her fingers crossed you fvckn nerd.

This is exactly what I�m talking about. You�re a fucking troll, you have no life, you have NOTHING to do with this argument but you need attention so badly you can�t keep you�re fucking mouth closed.

If insulting people really is that entertaining for you, GO JOIN A FUCKING INSULT FORUM. They have them, you are ruining a perfectly good forum by provoking people like me. And you know in real life people like me would wipe the floor with your punk ass which is why you need to squeeze out every word you can here.

quote:

ps. nice try at sigpwning me. if that's the best you can come up with, you're clearly clutching at straws. in your case, it isn't very hard for the rest of us.

�sigpwning� what are you 5 years old dipshit?
I�m showing you by reflection how fucking gay it looks to quote other people in our signatures. You�re a spoiled little brat who has no respect for people. Its obvious how shitty of a job your parents did raising your punk ass. Your dad should have hit you in the face with a shovel the second you popped outta your moms skanky vagina.

quote:

fyi, armin van buuren did a shout out to TT during the 5-year asot anniversary show. why would a famous dj and record label owner give praise to a music piracy site? i'll let you draw your own conclusions from that, genius.

Great! Yippy! Go suck armins cock now you fag WHO GIVES A FUCK? You REALLY think he was being serious? Its called sarcasm. And only conclusion I just drew is that you really are getting dumber by the minute with these posts..

go hang yourself troll

Posted by alanzo on Oct-23-2009 00:49:

I think a more important time is why do people waste their times arguing on forums when they could be spending that time on making better music.

Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Oct-23-2009 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I think a more important time is why do people waste their times arguing on forums when they could be spending that time on making better music.

If you were just in the studio (like I was), and you came here and noticed some random troll had been defamating your character when you were gone would you REALLY just ignore him?

People on this forum, including you, have reputations to uphold. If I allow that dipshit to ruin my reputation that effects how people view me and help me out on this forum, which in turn winds up rubbing off into my music.
Its already happening, cause I came here the other day to get some help, and trolls were making their way in and distracting people from helping me. So arguing with people here, in an indirect way, helps me with my music. This is the only place I know to go when I have a question, and this is the only place I get good answers from. I'm not gonna allow some random punk to ruin that for me..

Posted by EgosXII on Oct-23-2009 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Your mom has her fingers crossed you fvckn nerd.

This is exactly what I�m talking about. You�re a fucking troll, you have no life, you have NOTHING to do with this argument but you need attention so badly you can�t keep you�re fucking mouth closed.

If insulting people really is that entertaining for you, GO JOIN A FUCKING INSULT FORUM. They have them, you are ruining a perfectly good forum by provoking people like me. And you know in real life people like me would wipe the floor with your punk ass which is why you need to squeeze out every word you can here.

�sigpwning� what are you 5 years old dipshit?
I�m showing you by reflection how fucking gay it looks to quote other people in our signatures. You�re a spoiled little brat who has no respect for people. Its obvious how shitty of a job your parents did raising your punk ass. Your dad should have hit you in the face with a shovel the second you popped outta your moms skanky vagina.

Great! Yippy! Go suck armins cock now you fag WHO GIVES A FUCK? You REALLY think he was being serious? Its called sarcasm. And only conclusion I just drew is that you really are getting dumber by the minute with these posts..

go hang yourself troll

lol.

you're the one bringing the hate, and name-calling into this anti-hate thread

plus, how can you say armin was being sarcastic when he wasn't, and not notice that echo was being sarcastic when he was (in your sig)?? it's just beyond rational thought...

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-23-2009 02:06:

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