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Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Oct-22-2009 18:29:

What is your opinion of the music and/or DJ's this past year?

What is your opinion of the music and/or DJ's this past year?

I feel like I saw a lot of commercial DJ's that blew up last year decrease in popularity and put out shit music this year. If booked, they still draw huge crowds but they hype (and quality for that matter) went down.

"Underground music" or "Less commercial music" seems to have improved a lot more. Maybe because my taste in music has continued to change.

Just looking for your thoughts or opinions. Hopefully this discussion brings up talented people that may be interesting to myself or others.

(be nice everyone )


Posted by Tosh on Oct-22-2009 19:17:

I totally agree!!!
I have a hard time finding "underground" trance artists, but 2008 had more um... Amazing music? And better parties, and better live sets....
A few great albums came out but not a whole
lot... Most of the great tracks are by artists that aren't really that big
please give suggestions for trance and other types of music I might like.
And who is the best example
of "house"


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Oct-22-2009 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Tosh

I have a hard time finding "underground" trance artists, but 2008 had more um... Amazing music? And better parties, and better live sets....
A few great albums came out but not a whole
lot... Most of the great tracks are by artists that aren't really that big
please give suggestions for trance and other types of music I might like.
And who is the best example
of "house"


thats what the goal of NIKITA was at Circus. To bring in those underground trance djs. Simon Patterson, Sean Tyas, John Askew, Jon O'Bir, etc... LMD is doing a good job of keeping that up.

Avalon does a GREAT job of bringing talent associated with techno, house and even some psy. Paco, Bill Patrick, Audion, etc...

now back to subject at hand. any other opinions on the music this past year?


Posted by Tosh on Oct-22-2009 19:47:

1015 is kinda the same way (sorry! off subject)
thanks for the names


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-22-2009 20:23:

EDM got way too commercialized and it's officially now "cool," "hip," and "in." lol Hip hop/Top 40 are fucking it up for us diehards. Everyone and their mothers listens to EDM now.

On the flipside, it's good for the producers & promoters cause now they can make bank by targeting a bigger audience.

But just like it did in the early to mid 90's, it's gonna die quick!


Posted by in2muzikk on Oct-22-2009 21:14:

Seems that many of the top DJ's are bypassing the clubs in LA as of late, or maybe I'm just too impatient for them to come back (Above & Beyond, anyone)? They seem to spin in NorCal and SD more...maybe it's LAX, one of the worst international airports in the world...I read once that many Europeans visit the States once and they're done after that experience!

Gareth and Menno were great at Vanguard, but Circus has been the bright spot of EDM music for me...many awesome up and coming DJ's, and DJ's who are popular elsewhere but don't have so much exposure here. Cressida, for example, is one of the bedt DJ's I have heard at any club, Matthias' set was mind-blowing! . Tatana and Anthony Pappa were also amazing, and they have some of the best locals too, like Cowboy Mike and Norin & Rad.

Still cannot get into House unless it's Digweed, Sasha or the like. Gave Benassi and Guetta a try at EDC, but nope, just doesn't do it for me.

Wonder what NYE will bring us? (there's another thread for that, I know...)


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Oct-23-2009 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Tosh
And who is the best example
of "house"

This might be wayyyy off base for what people on TA think is house... but it's where it originated... and believe it or not there is a massive underground scene for these producers/artists in SF. (they just wouldn't be caught dead posting on this forum... except for me )
Josh Wink
Joey Youngman
Diz
Wally Callerio
Jason Bently
Heather
Julius Papp
Marquez Wyatt
Frankie Knuckles
King Britt
Mario Fabriani
Derrik Carter
Fred Everything
Eddie Amador
Ian Pooley
Matt Soda
Bryan Jones
Funsko
Sean Biddle
Biboulakis

This is probably wayyyy weird for people who are on TA, it's more funky, disco, old school type of house. But it's a big scene out here in SF that gets passed by by a lot of you because it's never posted on here. There's a lot of underground parties that happen here every weekend that are AWESOME. awesome crowds, great dancers, and typically just drinkers. (shit normally clears out by 2am. lol) It's the type of event you would go to where everyone seems to know everyone, and they tape a big peice of linoleum to the ground for all the fantasitc dancers/break dancers. Great vibes. I suggest you go and check it out one of these days.... you would understand what "house" really is here in SF besides the CHEEEEESE artists like Guetta or Kaskade or Benassi... pssssh. The closest thing I could think of musically to the artists mentioned above would be certain days/nights at the endup. my two cents


Posted by bstorm on Oct-23-2009 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
This might be wayyyy off base for what people on TA think is house... but it's where it originated... and believe it or not there is a massive underground scene for these producers/artists in SF. (they just wouldn't be caught dead posting on this forum... except for me )
Josh Wink
Joey Youngman
Diz
Wally Callerio
Jason Bently
Heather
Julius Papp
Marquez Wyatt
Frankie Knuckles
King Britt
Mario Fabriani
Derrik Carter
Fred Everything
Eddie Amador
Ian Pooley
Matt Soda
Bryan Jones
Funsko
Sean Biddle
Biboulakis

This is probably wayyyy weird for people who are on TA, it's more funky, disco, old school type of house. But it's a big scene out here in SF that gets passed by by a lot of you because it's never posted on here. There's a lot of underground parties that happen here every weekend that are AWESOME. awesome crowds, great dancers, and typically just drinkers. (shit normally clears out by 2am. lol) It's the type of event you would go to where everyone seems to know everyone, and they tape a big peice of linoleum to the ground for all the fantasitc dancers/break dancers. Great vibes. I suggest you go and check it out one of these days.... you would understand what "house" really is here in SF besides the CHEEEEESE artists like Guetta or Kaskade or Benassi... pssssh. The closest thing I could think of musically to the artists mentioned above would be certain days/nights at the endup. my two cents




As a house head...that might just be the best post I have ever read!

IMO: I Would put Terry Mullan on that list as well.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Oct-23-2009 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by bstorm


As a house head...that might just be the best post I have ever read!



+1


Posted by Jim Carson on Oct-23-2009 23:44:

I think Bingo Players and Afrojack are two of the most forward-thinking production teams to come out recently.

I would agree with Lyndsay that Joey Youngman aka Wolfgang Gartner and Eddie Amador are two of the best house music producers to ever live.

I just spoke with Eddie last week and told him of my intention to remix "Rise" and he was really excited about it. We were supposed to collaborate on some tracks this summer, but my DJ schedule wouldn't allow for it. I hope to get some time for that soon.... Eddie rocks.


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Oct-24-2009 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by bstorm

As a house head...that might just be the best post I have ever read!

IMO: I Would put Terry Mullan on that list as well.


Yes! Absolutely! There's so many more too...
Where have you guys been all my life!

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson

I would agree with Lyndsay that Joey Youngman aka Wolfgang Gartner and Eddie Amador are two of the best house music producers to ever live.


Joey Youngman, aka Wolfgang Gartner, aka Mario Fabriani, aka Digital Villains, aka White Collar Crimial... (this kid has the most alias' I've ever known! and they're all dope as hell!) It's a shame he absolutely REFUSES to DJ as Joey Youngman That would be a party I'd pay big bucks to see as I have a shit ton of his tracks... He's amazing either way, under whatever he chooses to produce as, and no matter what genre of house


Posted by Jim Carson on Oct-24-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
Yes! Absolutely! There's so many more too...
Where have you guys been all my life!



Joey Youngman, aka Wolfgang Gartner, aka Mario Fabriani, aka Digital Villains, aka White Collar Crimial... (this kid has the most alias' I've ever known! and they're all dope as hell!) It's a shame he absolutely REFUSES to DJ as Joey Youngman That would be a party I'd pay big bucks to see as I have a shit ton of his tracks... He's amazing either way, under whatever he chooses to produce as, and no matter what genre of house


He used to play a lot in LA as Joey Youngman at Balance @ King King. I'm sure in a few years he'll return as Joey Youngman and rock a set for you Lyndsay


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Oct-24-2009 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
He used to play a lot in LA as Joey Youngman at Balance @ King King. I'm sure in a few years he'll return as Joey Youngman and rock a set for you Lyndsay

Haha... he used to play here as Youngman as well.... but as of now... he refuses... so sad. I'll be waiting for the day


Posted by Jim Carson on Oct-24-2009 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
Haha... he used to play here as Youngman as well.... but as of now... he refuses... so sad. I'll be waiting for the day


Once you have house music in your soul it never leaves. I started off playing funky acid house, breaks, and funky disco house. I really got into playing funky disco house and that's all I would play for a long time at clubs like Liquid Butterfly here in LA from 1999-2001. Then I started playing different styles of harder, progressive house. Then I brought it back to deep and funky house in 2003 to 2004. No matter what, it always makes its way back home to house.


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Oct-24-2009 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
Once you have house music in your soul it never leaves. I started off playing funky acid house, breaks, and funky disco house. I really got into playing funky disco house and that's all I would play for a long time at clubs like Liquid Butterfly here in LA from 1999-2001. Then I started playing different styles of harder, progressive house. Then I brought it back to deep and funky house in 2003 to 2004. No matter what, it always makes its way back home to house.

You'll love this

Untitled House Music Documentary Extended Trailer - 3:45 from 32Thirteen on Vimeo.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Oct-24-2009 00:46:

^ pretty sick


Posted by bstorm on Oct-24-2009 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
Once you have house music in your soul it never leaves.


Perfectly said!

I have always tried to explain to people that house is all about soul...and once you have it in you, it won't go.

Lyndsay: Awesome video! Thanks!!!

I LOVE and appreciate ALL EDM, but house is what moves my core.


Posted by junkproject on Oct-24-2009 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by in2muzikk
Seems that many of the top DJ's are bypassing the clubs in LA as of late, or maybe I'm just too impatient for them to come back (Above & Beyond, anyone)? They seem to spin in NorCal and SD more...maybe it's LAX, one of the worst international airports in the world...I read once that many Europeans visit the States once and they're done after that experience!

Gareth and Menno were great at Vanguard, but Circus has been the bright spot of EDM music for me...many awesome up and coming DJ's, and DJ's who are popular elsewhere but don't have so much exposure here. Cressida, for example, is one of the bedt DJ's I have heard at any club, Matthias' set was mind-blowing! . Tatana and Anthony Pappa were also amazing, and they have some of the best locals too, like Cowboy Mike and Norin & Rad.

Still cannot get into House unless it's Digweed, Sasha or the like. Gave Benassi and Guetta a try at EDC, but nope, just doesn't do it for me.

Wonder what NYE will bring us? (there's another thread for that, I know...)
I used to be the same way. Hated house! Now i love it and now trance sounds like cheese to me.


Posted by Lomeli on Oct-24-2009 02:09:

Our underground scene in Santa Barbara is growing fast. The music is making it's move from top40 to EDM. Slowly, but surely.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-24-2009 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by junkproject
I used to be the same way. Hated house! Now i love it and now trance sounds like cheese to me.


this is a rite of passage everyone goes though. trance is catchier and it appeals to the edm beginner more, but at some point you develop a taste for DANCE music, aka house.


Posted by Jim Carson on Oct-24-2009 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
You'll love this

Untitled House Music Documentary Extended Trailer - 3:45 from 32Thirteen on Vimeo.



I DO LOVE IT!!!

GREAT TRAILER!!!

So glad to see all those great Djs in there and Jason Blakemore (who pretty much influenced my sound greatly and provided the soundtrack to many great, memorable nights by both mixtape and live in person at raves from Santa Barbara to LA to San Diego to San Bernardino).


Posted by in2muzikk on Oct-24-2009 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
this is a rite of passage everyone goes though. trance is catchier and it appeals to the edm beginner more, but at some point you develop a taste for DANCE music, aka house.


Hahaha...I have actually grown into Trance, started out with rock and metal, British punk, then found Trance, mostly through the Internet. All Trance is not created equal, much as all House is not created equal.

There is cheese and rotten egg in most genres, so I'm amused when some say that they grew out of Trance and now it's all cheese. More likely, they learned to discern rhythm, key, composition, melody, progression and style, then decided to favor another genre of music.

It's those songs that fall into the "so completely awesome that they send chills down my spine category" that I really love, and genre doesn't define them well. For me, most tend to be progressive with a techno feel that may cross-pollinate with Trance, House, Electro, whatever and create one beautiful flower.


Posted by DizkokidD on Oct-24-2009 19:52:

i went from house to trance and sampled all that is in between. But its just those songs from different genres that send the chills down the spine that reminds us of why we like EDM..

Those same chills i don't get with any top 40/hip hop/alternative genre.



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