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Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-03-2002 19:48:

HappyHappy RIAA now wants to SUE individual MP3 traders..article inside...

taken from http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1023-941547.html?


Record labels hell-bent on strangling unauthorized music copying on the Internet are considering widening their legal efforts to include lawsuits against individuals, according to industry sources.

The move comes as the industry wrestles to contain the effects of peer-to-peer software applications that allow consumers to link their PCs into massive cooperatives where millions of music titles can be found and copied for free. Despite legal rulings that have helped the labels shut down some of the most popular providers of file-swapping services, such as Napster, such networks have grown unabated.

The labels have not yet decided to sue individuals, industry insiders said. However, it's clear executives are seeking a way to make consumers think twice before uploading or downloading music via the Net. They're also discussing funding a larger education campaign. But some believe the most prolific file-traders should be held legally accountable.

"The subject is on the table," said one industry executive who requested anonymity. "The idea would be to discourage people. Clearly there have been no consequences yet."

The move toward suing individuals, first reported in The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, would mark a substantial deviation from the path that record labels and movie studios have previously taken in their battles against online piracy.

In the past, labels and movie studios have targeted only companies that have profited--or intended to profit--by the rise in online piracy. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has successfully sued Napster and Audiogalaxy; it is continuing lawsuits against Madster (formerly known as Aimster), StreamCast Networks, Grokster and the company that created Kazaa. The industry group has said it intends to add Sharman Networks, which now operates the Kazaa network, to that list.

So far, the lawsuits have been filed for "contributory infringement," which means the labels have charged that companies such as Napster were knowingly aiding and abetting the real music-copiers. But for any of those suits to fly, it means the labels and the judges have acknowledged that the actions of individual file-swappers themselves were direct copyright infringement, and therefore potentially illegal.

Industry insiders say any lawsuits would likely target people who were offering large numbers of files for download by others. They cite a common belief in the industry, initially sparked by a study of Gnutella users conducted by Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center (PARC), that only about 10 percent of file-swappers provide about 90 percent of the content available through networks such as Kazaa.

Discouraging this 10 percent of "providers" would go a long way in reducing the amount of content available through file-swapping networks, industry insiders say.

Previously, record companies, movie studios and software companies have pursued individuals though their Internet service providers. Connecting to most peer-to-peer networks exposes a computer user's Internet address, which can be traced back to an ISP. Copyright owners have sent thousands of letters to ISPs complaining about subscribers' copyright infringement over the past year, resulting in warning letters to the subscribers, and in some cases cancellation of accounts.

The hard-rock band Metallica cited unnamed individuals in its lawsuit against Napster, and the band's attorney said he would likely add specific individuals later. That tack was later dropped, however.

All of this action has had only minimal effect on the total volume of file trading, however.

According to recent estimates by The Yankee Group research firm, close to 7.9 billion audio files were traded in 2001 by computer users 14 years and older. By 2004, they expect that number to rise to more than 11.4 billion.

Record industry insiders say there is no timetable for when potential suits against individuals would be launched.


LOL...hahahhahahahaahaha....funny




Posted by jp on Jul-03-2002 19:51:

They call suck my Jumbo�


Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-03-2002 19:51:

Re: RIAA now wants to SUE individual MP3 traders..article inside...

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
taken from http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1023-941547.html?

They cite a common belief in the industry, initially sparked by a study of Gnutella users conducted by Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center (PARC), that only about 10 percent of file-swappers provide about 90 percent of the content available through networks such as Kazaa.

Discouraging this 10 percent of "providers" would go a long way in reducing the amount of content available through file-swapping networks, industry insiders say.



makes u wonder...they will be going after release groups????


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-03-2002 19:56:

Re: Re: RIAA now wants to SUE individual MP3 traders..article inside...

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14



makes u wonder...they will be going after release groups????


hmmm what wankers. I hav a question. Are livesets illegal?


Posted by jp on Jul-03-2002 20:00:

livesets are legal if they're not released on a album but recorded from radio

spreading official releases by record company's like CDs, Singles, Vinyls on mp3 is illegal...


Posted by xtr3m on Jul-03-2002 20:01:

This is not that funny at all. The warez scene recieved a big hit after FBI finished their recent campaign and arrested quite a few of the groups' members.


Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-03-2002 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by xtr3m
This is not that funny at all. The warez scene recieved a big hit after FBI finished their recent campaign and arrested quite a few of the groups' members.


i just think its funny that in all the chaos in this world that these peoples efforts on MP3s is kind of pathetic...

kiddie porn is more of an issue then MP3s yet u hear more about the banning of MP3s then u do about that...kinda sick


Posted by sherman on Jul-03-2002 20:06:

wow that was a long article so i didnt read it all but the part i read was funny


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-03-2002 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14


i just think its funny that in all the chaos in this world that these peoples efforts on MP3s is kind of pathetic...

kiddie porn is more of an issue then MP3s yet u hear more about the banning of MP3s then u do about that...kinda sick


W3rd!!!!


Posted by noikeee on Jul-03-2002 21:06:

just one thing to say:

SUE ME!


Posted by DJPrototypeX on Jul-03-2002 22:03:

Question

jus a question...do DJ like Sasha, Digweed, etc, and producers such as Max Graham, Steve Lawler, etc care about their stuff gettin ripped by groups???...i mean...this is a great way to get their stuff heard...and if they really wanna spread the music...its also a good way to do it...but yea...they do lose money...


iono...they'd be wastin their time suein individuals...too many of em...


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jul-03-2002 22:53:

How can they sue a bunch of underage teenagers?


Posted by DJPrototypeX on Jul-03-2002 23:32:

honestly cant see y they wouldnt...


Posted by Magimaster on Jul-03-2002 23:43:

what we need is some big corporation with infinite funds to help us in our fight.

since that's never gonna happen......

seriously tho', if they try and sue individuals, they aint gonna get far.


Posted by dj kinetica on Jul-04-2002 00:23:

Re: RIAA now wants to SUE individual MP3 traders..article inside...

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
taken from http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1023-941547.html?

According to recent estimates by The Yankee Group research firm, close to 7.9 billion audio files were traded in 2001 by computer users 14 years and older. By 2004, they expect that number to rise to more than 11.4 billion.


whoooooooo thats a lot of mp3s...im responsible for only 400 =x come and get me RIAA


Posted by DanceresortUK on Jul-04-2002 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
livesets are legal if they're not released on a album but recorded from radio

spreading official releases by record company's like CDs, Singles, Vinyls on mp3 is illegal...


You will find live sets are illegal too, any thing recorded can be listened to once and then must be got rid of, unless of course you contact the radio/TV station and ask them if you can keep the recording. distributing Radio sets is the same as full albums BUT record companies dont care about Radio sets because the are not selling them so their little doller signs are not affected.

Hope this helps....


Posted by whiskers on Jul-04-2002 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DanceresortUK


You will find live sets are illegal too, any thing recorded can be listened to once and then must be got rid of, unless of course you contact the radio/TV station and ask them if you can keep the recording. distributing Radio sets is the same as full albums BUT record companies dont care about Radio sets because the are not selling them so their little doller signs are not affected.

Hope this helps....


i'll make sure that i call radio 1, 538, and others and ask them if i can keep all of my livesets. oh yeah, i'll also delete all of my illegal mp3s from my hdd.
on other thought, MY ASS i will!


Posted by djbounce on Jul-04-2002 02:02:

RIAA CAN SUCK MY POLISH DICK!!!!!!!!

FIGHT THE SYSTEM!!!!


Bounce


Posted by DanceresortUK on Jul-04-2002 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoInTheMix


i'll make sure that i call radio 1, 538, and others and ask them if i can keep all of my livesets. oh yeah, i'll also delete all of my illegal mp3s from my hdd.
on other thought, MY ASS i will!



LOL, same here !!! RIAA


Posted by Blue. on Jul-04-2002 02:57:

Can't do shit. Thye can't tell wether I ripped it from a CD or downloaded it.


Posted by matt_a on Jul-04-2002 12:20:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Are the RIAA the stupidest people ever? They may as well bang their head against a brick wall rather than trying to stop mp3 sharing.

So while the third world are starving and in need of food and any money the RIAA are spending millions on sueing individuals (if they do imagine how clogged up the courts will be! They will never get through all the cases and how the hell do they know who you are anyway from online? Theya re pathetic!) so that the greedy record companies who care only about money and not the music can continue t bathe in cash. And artists like Metallica can fuck off!

I can't wait till the RIAA goes
"Ahhh shit we can't win they're too many of them! We give up. Now what else can we waste our dumptrucks of money on?"

That day I will dance and sing and have a merry old time. But I doubt it will happen.

Sueing individuals. Good luck wankers! Stupidest thing I've ever fricken heard!


Posted by Philby on Jul-04-2002 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
Can't do shit. Thye can't tell wether I ripped it from a CD or downloaded it.


I think they're more worried about the fact that you are letting other people download it for free, not necessarily if you did.


Posted by Drifter on Jul-04-2002 14:18:

riaa can kiss my arse


Posted by Blue. on Jul-04-2002 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby


I think they're more worried about the fact that you are letting other people download it for free, not necessarily if you did.


Well if you own a copy of the album and I let you download it then wheres the harm in that lol. And I'm sure you have it if I give it to you lol


Posted by nekholm on Jul-04-2002 14:55:

Let's fucking sue them for sueing everyone all the friggin time


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