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TTC fares going up big time... AGAIN!
Welcome to Toronto... NOW PAY MORE!!
The official new logo for the city of toronto:
Thank god for my car!!
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| All signs point to a New Year's fare hike for TTC riders, now that the Toronto Transit Commission has moved up its monthly November meeting to talk about operating costs. Originally scheduled for the end of the month, it will take place Nov. 17, with the TTC's 2010 operating budget expected to be the key agenda item. That gives the nine city councillors on the commission just a little over the six weeks the TTC requires to prepare for a fare increase. It's not clear how big a fare hike is being contemplated, but an increase of about 25 cents per ride raises about $45 million in revenue for the transit system. For the past decade the TTC has raised fares about 10 cents per ride annually, which brings in about $20 million in operating revenue. But this year Mayor David Miller pledged a price freeze to help recession-weary riders. Chair Adam Giambrone has already rejected the idea of service cuts, and both the city and province are predicting dire financial straits for the foreseeable future, making subsidy increases look unlikely. The TTC is nevertheless expected to ask for an increase of about $80 million in operating subsidies for 2010. There is going to be about a $100 million shortfall on next year's operating budget, Giambrone said Tuesday. That reflects higher costs across the board, 2 to 3 per cent inflation, diesel prices and rising accident claims. There are three ways for the TTC to raise operating revenue: Cut service, increased subsidies from government and fare hikes. "All three options will be before the commission for consideration," said Giambrone. "I am not prepared to cut service." TTC vice-chair Joe Mihevc said, "The bottom line is the deficit for the TTC is huge," referring to the shortfall in operating revenue generated at the fare box, where the transit system recovers only about 71 per cent of its costs. "You cannot talk about the deficit without talking about fares," he conceded. A 10-cent increase usually means a loss of about 2 million rides a year. The TTC is only just recovering from the loss of ridership in the 1990s, when it cut service and increased fares. "It has taken us a generation to get that ridership back," said Mihevc. TTC surveys consistently show that service cuts are the last thing riders want. The transit system received about $394 million in city subsidies on its $1.3 billion operating budget this year. That was up from $317 million in 2008 � making another increase look unlikely for 2010, said city budget committee chair Shelley Carroll, who pointed out that if the TTC wants to raise fares in January it is in the awkward position of having to do so before the budget committee does its review. "We're going to wait to see their submission," she said. But with new Transit City streetcar lines rolling out in a couple of years, operating costs for the TTC will continue to be a problem. Asked if it would get more money next year, she said, "Without any hesitation, with what I know of the early operating outlook, the answer is no." The TTC last week announced it had reduced its 10-year capital plan, which includes new vehicles and facilities, by $538 million. That's $300 million less than the $838 million the city asked it to cut. The TTC is already projecting a $22 million shortfall on its 2009 operating budget, in part because the transferable monthly Metropass has been appealing to riders. Instead of collecting $1.80 per ride, the TTC has been averaging only about $1.78 � an amount that adds up when multiplied by about 1.5 million rides a day, according to transit officials. |
i dont think the article mentioned that metro passes will go up $17
sweet.. looks like I'm getting a raise 
what they charge is already outrageous. A monthly pass in New york city is cheaper than toronto is now and look at the service u get there!
At least when you pay for your car you own something and its at your disposal at all times.
Screw transit.
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| Originally posted by kotsy sweet.. looks like I'm getting a raise |
Hah just last month I would still care about this.
*looks at car and smiles* 
WHAT THE FUCK.
Totally amazes me that transit in Melbourne is free on public holidays and runs normal hours with a decent price the rest of the year; yet TTC hikes up its fares to accommodate god knows what costs. Lovely! 
And if that's not enough, they're proposing a TORONTO CITY TAX!!!!!
I LOVE IT!!!!!
Hmmmmm.... which of my cars should I drive to work today?
wow, way to make the metro pass useless for most people.
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie Hmmmmm.... which of my cars should I drive to work today? |
Thank god I'm moving the hell out of this city in the next year to two.
$3! $6 round trip. And its the employees that are demanding this. Thank God I get a discount on an metropass, but the rates are sure to rise as well.
I hate how there are daily deleys as well on my east and westbound routes around keele station.
The TTC isn't the better way, its the only way if you dont drive!
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| Originally posted by Dior Homme The TTC isn't the better way, its the only way if you dont drive! |
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| Originally posted by kotsy sweet.. looks like I'm getting a raise |
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| Originally posted by VDub And if that's not enough, they're proposing a TORONTO CITY TAX!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!! |
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| Originally posted by MissK Not only the delays, but what about the dirty people who ride the subway who have no manners or need for cleanliness. |
I used to have contacts in a TTC fare counterfeit ring, but then we all graduated jr. high and lost contact. 50cents used to piss us off now look where we are. *takes a swig of morning rum*
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| Originally posted by MissK Not only the delays, but what about the dirty people who ride the subway who have no manners or need for cleanliness. |
Toronto is finished thanks to miller and mcguinty....
Toronto got what it voted for and will probably keep voting for it.
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| Originally posted by Sentinal Katy you couldn't be more right. Its just as bad here in Mississauga. Yesterday some asain guy was sitting on the bus and hacking up a lung and wasn't even covering his mouth. I was so disgusted I got on the mic and told him to cover his mouth. He didn't like me for doing that, but in the name of health and cleanliness I felt compelled to say something. Boy oh boy there are some smelly bastards that get on the bus though, and its always the smelly ones with bad breath that want to sit up front and chat away while I'm driving. |
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| Originally posted by Kellyboop Melbourne |
So how many TA's, rather than griping on the board (which I'm sure City Council reads daily), are actually taking the time to email the mayor, their councillor and Adam Giambrone to express their displeasure with this situation?
Takes all of 5 minutes.
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