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So Toronto Won the 2015 PanAm games!
..discuss!
about time we won something...
cue the whiners, NIMBYs and "whats in it for me?" crowd....... 
Jay.
U'll appreciate this article. So true. Courtesy of Desidel
http://www.thestar.com/sports/panam...the-subway?bn=1
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| It's reached the point where simply to apply for a major international sports or cultural event is an admission of civic failure. Whether it's the Olympics themselves or even, as in Toronto's more modest case, the Pan Am Games, the conclusion is the same: This must be a city that hasn't got its act together. This must be a city desperate for the torrent of cash and energy unleashed by a global athletic event to rise above the inertia, the political impasse, the sheer passivity of business-as-usual. Why else would anyone want the hassle? So it's no surprise Toronto's argument for the 2015 Pan Ams boils down to need. If the city and region were to win the Games, Toronto, Ontario and Canada would finally have to address issues that have been ignored for decades. Transit and housing come to mind, both abandoned by "senior" governments years ago. Of course, everyone hopes Toronto gets the nod; so many times has the city been passed over, it boasts a world-class inferiority complex. In fact, the world loves Toronto; there's nowhere people would rather be. It's just that ... It's just that we've rested on our (non-athletic) laurels too long. In the '70s, Toronto was The City That Works; it has since become The City That Can't Keep Up. No longer do we hold up the TTC as a North American success story; The Better Way has become The Bitter Way. And now we're looking at fare increases to avoid cuts that would devastate the system. The last time Toronto competed for a major international event (not the Olympics) was in 2006, when we went after the 2015 World's Fair, which was eventually awarded to Milan. That fell apart because the three levels of government were unable to submit a bid by the deadline. This time, Toronto's chances look much better. Though the Pan Ams aren't quite the Olympics, they're large enough to kick-start a building program that, done well, could benefit the city hugely. Just ask Franco Vaccarino, principal of the University of Toronto Scarborough Campus. It stands to gain a state-of-the-art aquatic centre, one of the game's "legacy facilities," as well as the new LRT line that would run through the campus along Military Trail Dr. "We're on the radar now," says a smiling Vaccarino. "Scarborough is where the growth will happen. The Games would have a huge impact." Think how Barcelona used the 1992 Olympics to transform itself. That city serves as the model for Olympic host wannabes, a shining example of how to buy a new city spending money on sports. It can be done, and Torontonians must hope it can be done here. Having created a multi-level governance structure focused on internal wrangling, the odds aren't great. On the other hand, the pressure of mounting the Games might inspire an outbreak of cooperation among our bickering governments, at least temporarily. If it doesn't, we face more of the same. The subways, the light rail vehicles and bus lines, the affordable housing and recreational facilities that come with the Games will fall into the cracks. But just as the city continues to thrive because of investments made decades ago, the spending prompted by the Pan Am Games would enable future generations to inhabit a much tougher city than the one we have today. Toronto's failed Olympic bid was in many ways the opposite of Beijing's. China needed the Games to show the world what it can do; Toronto needed them to show itself what it can do. |
I have alot of mixed feelings about this really... 2015 tho ... it could be good ...
bye bye sound emporium... LOL
LOL..
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The victory seems all the more sweet since the city and region have lost two Olympic bids, two Commonwealth Games bids in Hamilton and couldn't even get a bid for the world expo off the ground.
Winning the games helps Toronto shed its "loser mentality," but the games give governments a firm deadline to complete promised projects including transit improvements like the rail link to the Pearson airport.
you should hear the NIMBY outcry for the rail link...
youd think they were about to build a nuclear waste disposal facility in their basements!
If they can push this through with the games as an incentive then why the hell cant they do the same for everything else?
If there is anything in Toronto im sick of more than the left wing politicians, its the NIMBY against everything crowd that reigns supreme. And you know that they will be out for this... bread not circuses for one.
Lets hope looking good for the world is incentive enough for politicians to grow some balls!!
It's not the olympics, but I'll take it!
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| Originally posted by Geoffb3 I have alot of mixed feelings about this really... 2015 tho ... it could be good ... |
Worst thing to happen to the city....I hope all the residents of Toronto are ready to give up their pay cheques to pay for the games.
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Worst thing to happen to the city....I hope all the residents of Toronto are ready to give up their pay cheques to pay for the games. |
Sorry but I have to say it....
Bad idea, will cost the city so much money, that and its like 10% of talented athletes in the world competing. I don't think I would go see any events.
Bring the Beers Olympics here, that I would go watch.
for anyone who owns a house in Toronto I recommend taking two weeks vacation during the games and getting out of town....rent your house out for the two weeks and make a little coin.
meh..
Let me just write this down on my list of things not to go to
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced for anyone who owns a house in Toronto I recommend taking two weeks vacation during the games and getting out of town....rent your house out for the two weeks and make a little coin. |
I don't know guys...
im sorta excited. I totally see the inconvenience side of the issue and how its money out of our tax paying pockets however....
the sportsfan in me is actually excited. Granted I'm still in Toronto at the time which I really don't think I will be I'd love to be in a city where a major sporting event is taking place. Well as major as the Pan AM games get right.
It will also boost our nation's athletic and olympic programs, and maybe we'll finally get the amount of golds we used to get. Our olympic golds this past decade have been rediculously diminishing.
LOL
true...
a chance to look good
When all is said and done, I hope the city makes more money than it spends
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| Originally posted by Nick Cenik When all is said and done, I hope the city makes more money than it spends |
Easy money if you print out thousands of PanAm t-shirts and hire students to go out and sell them on the streets.
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie Easy money if you print out thousands of PanAm t-shirts and hire students to go out and sell them on the streets. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 that would be illegal in toronto... PANhandling is ok though LOL |
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie Mildly.... you see them all the time at concerts and other events selling them for 1/2 the price as the official licenced onces, making a mint selling them for 20 bucks, after costing you less than $5 to make them, and selling them to young or job-needy resellers for up to $10. I used to be one of these students, and made about $50 an hour. |
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