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Posted by tubularbills on Nov-07-2009 22:36:

a request of you, cor

I am requesting any and all information anyone could provide to me about what it would be like to live in Kabul, Afghanastan for 365 days.

thanks.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-07-2009 22:42:

Relatively crap, I'm guessing.

Why would you want to do that?


Posted by Echo of Silence on Nov-07-2009 22:46:

I did some research for the World Bank for a few weeks in Mersa Matruh which is rural north western Egypt.

What I can share with you...good food. A lot of people smoke ciggies. And they stand closer to you than people stand in usa or dk. Weird shopping, you go to one store for this, another store for that. There were no mega supermarkets. You shouldn't look at women. Don't talk to women. If you want, you talk to the man who is with the woman. If she talks directly to you, its okay for you to speak with her. Don't touch her. Be respectful. Don't go near girls.

I actually had a great time. I made some good friends. However, I was careful to cover and speak through the local scientists first so not to cause confusion.


Posted by tubularbills on Nov-07-2009 22:47:

it's a job opportunity that has fallen in my lap. i would deploy leaving december 2010, should i decide to take it.

part of me is thinking, "wow, what an adventure" and "it gets me out of enid". but as sucky as Enid is, i'm thinking afghan would be worse. and for a year? gross.

but i'd make about $70k. tax free. goodbye student loans!

i'm set to deploy in dec 2010 no matter what. other options are a six month rotation in places like manas krygezstan (sp?), capt victory iraq, al udied, and guam.

i thought guam would be fun. never lived on an island before. but then again, these kind of 365 opportunities don't just fall out of the sky like this one, especially for a young officer like me too. plus, when i get back, i'd pretty much be able to pick wherever i wanted to go next, if i choose to. whereas if i took just the six month one; i wouldn't have that kind of choice, nor make as much money.


Posted by Meat187 on Nov-07-2009 23:07:

Your skin is too light and you don't have a beard --> definitely no.
I don't want to see people who have a Bavarian flag in their garden getting killed.


Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-07-2009 23:09:

I'm an Afghan myself and visited Kabul several times in recent years.

What kind of job are you applying for? I'm actually also considoring working in Kabul.

On living there, it depends. If you work on an NGO you are very restricted. You will probably live in the more uptown areas such as Shahr-e-Naw (New City) or Wazir Akbar Khan. These areas are where most western NGOs, organizations and embassies are.

Kabul was totally bombed to pieces during the civil war in early 90s. Most of the city have been restored since the fall of the taliban regime. Although you will still find shady areas with no electricity. Electricity is always a problem in Kabul. It have been much better since the last year when power is coming from the Uzbekistan. Most offices and homes still have a diesel generator that they power on when the power goes out.

Alot of the water in Kabul is actually cleaner than in many other Asian countries. I've been to India and I didn't dare to drink any water there but bottled water. Kabul however is a bit different. Here most of the water comes from the river of Sarobi east of Kabul and these waters are fresch and nice. I still recommend drinking bottled water to begin with.

So what to do in Kabul in your freetime? There are lots of nice souvenire shops and restaurants in Shahr-e-Naw. You can find italian, chineese, turkish and of course afghan cousines in that area. Here you'll also find top modern shopping malls of the same standard as in the west with western brand clothing shops.
There are ATMs scattered around and often found near most banks and malls.


A popular trip for many afghans is to travel to Qargha lake to the north of city. Avoid going there on fridays since that is the weekend and it's next to impossible to get a good picknick spot.
You can go on a boat trip on the lake and even swim (I've tried and it's refreshing!)

Also don't miss going to Kabul museum found ner Darulaman.
The Babur park is also worth a visit. It have been restored and was once in a time one of the best parks in Asia.

Finally I highly recommend a visit to Mandayi. It's the oldest bazaar in Kabul and here you'll find everything! Cheap clothes and some of the best kebab restaurants in the city. But if you are patient enough and stroll deeper into the bazaar you'll find amazing shops which sells the best dry fruits in Asia and lots of other goodies. I usually buy with me over 10 kg of noqool (sugar covered almonds), pistachio and raisins!

There is quite alot to do in Kabul. Just have an open mind and you'll do fine :-)
If I'm around I'll gladly show you around. Good luck!


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Nov-08-2009 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills

part of me is thinking, "wow, what an adventure" and "it gets me out of enid". but as sucky as Enid is, i'm thinking afghan would be worse. and for a year? gross.


Maybe so, but you'll get crazy stories to tell your grandchildren. This is the sort of thing you'd later regret not doing.


Posted by Sunsnail on Nov-08-2009 01:14:

unless you get blowed up


Posted by R.j. on Nov-08-2009 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
unless you get blowed up



Posted by Fledz on Nov-08-2009 01:33:

70K tax free isn't too bad, but how's the security of the job you're thinking of? It's not exactly the safest part of the world, especially for a Yank from the military.


Posted by bas on Nov-08-2009 01:42:

I don't want this to come off sounding rude, but T-Bills...this is kind of your job

I say do it, and nothing...NOTHING could be worse than Enid

You'd be living on a base of some kind yes? Something similar to that complex in The Kingdom? That's probably a bad example because that complex got blown to shit, but you get my idea.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-08-2009 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
That's probably a bad example because that complex got blown to shit, but you get my idea.


Lol


Posted by tubularbills on Nov-08-2009 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
I'm an Afghan myself and visited Kabul several times in recent years.

What kind of job are you applying for? I'm actually also considoring working in Kabul.

On living there, it depends. If you work on an NGO you are very restricted. You will probably live in the more uptown areas such as Shahr-e-Naw (New City) or Wazir Akbar Khan. These areas are where most western NGOs, organizations and embassies are.

Kabul was totally bombed to pieces during the civil war in early 90s. Most of the city have been restored since the fall of the taliban regime. Although you will still find shady areas with no electricity. Electricity is always a problem in Kabul. It have been much better since the last year when power is coming from the Uzbekistan. Most offices and homes still have a diesel generator that they power on when the power goes out.

Alot of the water in Kabul is actually cleaner than in many other Asian countries. I've been to India and I didn't dare to drink any water there but bottled water. Kabul however is a bit different. Here most of the water comes from the river of Sarobi east of Kabul and these waters are fresch and nice. I still recommend drinking bottled water to begin with.

So what to do in Kabul in your freetime? There are lots of nice souvenire shops and restaurants in Shahr-e-Naw. You can find italian, chineese, turkish and of course afghan cousines in that area. Here you'll also find top modern shopping malls of the same standard as in the west with western brand clothing shops.
There are ATMs scattered around and often found near most banks and malls.


A popular trip for many afghans is to travel to Qargha lake to the north of city. Avoid going there on fridays since that is the weekend and it's next to impossible to get a good picknick spot.
You can go on a boat trip on the lake and even swim (I've tried and it's refreshing!)

Also don't miss going to Kabul museum found ner Darulaman.
The Babur park is also worth a visit. It have been restored and was once in a time one of the best parks in Asia.

Finally I highly recommend a visit to Mandayi. It's the oldest bazaar in Kabul and here you'll find everything! Cheap clothes and some of the best kebab restaurants in the city. But if you are patient enough and stroll deeper into the bazaar you'll find amazing shops which sells the best dry fruits in Asia and lots of other goodies. I usually buy with me over 10 kg of noqool (sugar covered almonds), pistachio and raisins!

There is quite alot to do in Kabul. Just have an open mind and you'll do fine :-)
If I'm around I'll gladly show you around. Good luck!


interesting. I've done some random reading of people who have worked there, and noted a lot of the same things (Especially the lake up north).

As an Air Force weather guy, i dunno what all i'd be able to do in town. i mean, i honestly have no idea if we are restricted to living in a certain spot or not. but the job description simply says "forecaster/observer: kabul international airport".


quote:
Originally posted by bas
I don't want this to come off sounding rude, but T-Bills...this is kind of your job


actually,this is an opportunity that has popped its head around the corner. i can actually choose to apply for this, if i want to. if i don't want, then i don't have to. the only thing is that i have to deploy in dec 2010. don't get me wrong, i'm not like that major at fort hood who didn't want to deploy. i think it'll be an interesting experience. that being said, however, Guam as a deployment spot to me sounds nice but when this popped up, i was like, "hm...interesting" and it kinda sparked my interest.

quote:


I say do it, and nothing...NOTHING could be worse than Enid

You'd be living on a base of some kind yes? Something similar to that complex in The Kingdom? That's probably a bad example because that complex got blown to shit, but you get my idea.


i honestly have no idea. i just found out about this on friday...and i emailed someone about it asking for more info; and their out of office response came back. d'oh!

and, meh, Enid isn't so bad. i mean, it has everything one needs to survive. really, Altus is worse than Enid. good lord


Posted by BTG on Nov-08-2009 04:27:

sand in your vagina.

and all the other vaginas you meet.


Posted by tubularbills on Nov-08-2009 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
70K tax free isn't too bad, but how's the security of the job you're thinking of? It's not exactly the safest part of the world, especially for a Yank from the military.


yeah i'm not sure if i'd have to carry a weapon with me. i'm assuming i would. i know, it sounds kind of stupid, weather guy with a gun; but it's not just restriced to my job, it'd be everyone on the base/airport.

as far as security goes, from what i've been told, southern afghan, near kandahar and the neighboring borders to the west/south are much more "unsafe".


Posted by Tom Smykowski on Nov-09-2009 02:06:

Do it! THis is the best idea Ive ever heard!



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