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Is this site legit to get vsts from?

Not sure if this has been posted but the vsts on this site are incredibly cheap.
I'm not entirely sure what OEM software is but I read their FAQ and have a slight clue.
Has anyone used them before I wanna get a couple of vsts?

http://www.softwarebizreseller.com/

no

KVR is a good one

I'm sure they provide you the VSTs after paying whatever the asking price. So yes, they are legit. Unethical? Most likely. An operation based overseas? Almost certainly.

honestly - you would be doing the music community a favor by torenting or getting them from a friend versus giving a company like this money. software doesn't follow supply and demand economics, it revolves around setting the right price points, marketing, etc. (Much like drug companies!) - Unfortunately intellectual property is be coming less and less property as the days pass.

I am personally glad I am taking the hardware route and cutting down and limiting my soft synth use. From what I can tell, hardware holds its value extremely well. I actually made $40 off my Radias. It's like renting for free you just gotta sit back and look for the proper deals. I've never understood why a lot more people don't do this and instead want soft synths and the latest group buy or whatever flavor of the month. I'm not dissing soft synths, as they are powerful and good, but I don't understand why they are way, way more popular than outboard gear when outboard gear is like a free instrument (if bought and sold properly)

All I have been using lately is the Ableton Instruments, my Blue Tubes package for FX, FM8, and Virus TI. This is just four sources and there really isn't much more you'll need. Ironically, of the 4 listed synths/fx listed above, the Virus TI holds its value far and beyond any of the software.

Rant over.

Don't buy OEM software. In fact, don't buy software, period! Get some outboard gear. Don't want to get into a debate, but there is a reason that the top hardware companies keep bringing out new stuff. The obvious is the synths sell. These companies wouldn't be progressing forward if they feared the future or were struggling financially because nobody bought their latest products. Again, there's a reason that hardware is still, and always will be, produced.

No OEM software
No software


Hardware only! You would be surprised at what you can get for your $ on the hardware end if you don't mind pre-owned gear, and as mentioned above multiple times, you can just turn around and sell it and make money off it if you're patient when buying/selling. I personally just picked up a Virus TI desktop for 1k flat. Can't beat that!

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley I am personally glad I am taking the hardware route and cutting down and limiting my soft synth use. From what I can tell, hardware holds its value extremely well. I actually made $40 off my Radias. It's like renting for free you just gotta sit back and look for the proper deals. I've never understood why a lot more people don't do this and instead want soft synths and the latest group buy or whatever flavor of the month. I'm not dissing soft synths, as they are powerful and good, but I don't understand why they are way, way more popular than outboard gear when outboard gear is like a free instrument (if bought and sold properly)

Hardware is still pretty expensive when you buy it as an investment to be used as a tool, not as an investment that you are gonna resell for profit. I hardly ever sell anything, only buy, it's hardly a cheap hobby!

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley I personally just picked up a Virus TI desktop for 1k flat. Can't beat that!

hardware keeps its value huh?

When I am looking for instruments, I am not looking for an investment. I am looking for something that works well for me. Your advice is far too cut and dry, Steve.

Edit: Btw, No Robby, wouldn't buy from there.

Stay away from that site Robby.. It's pirate stuff, you do realise it's reduced quality?

lol sorry mate thats the last time

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley software doesn't follow supply and demand economics

Sorry, but this cracked me up. I love how everyone is an armchair economist these days, particularly around elections... "oh... interest rates! INFLATION!"

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Originally posted by RichieV hardware keeps its value huh?

I bought my TI for less than i sold it for, was brand new too

you lucked out

Its not a legit place to buy. As said pirate stuff. And if thats what you want as someone said already, torrent it. Why give someone your cash and you could find it in minutes online

1st thing I saw on there on the left was adobe CS4 which is worth way way more than what they offer. Instantly proves to me its all pirate stuff. Best test is compare prices on real sites.

If its too good to be true, as the story goes......

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Its not a legit place to buy. As said pirate stuff. And if thats what you want as someone said already, torrent it. Why give someone your cash and you could find it in minutes online 1st thing I saw on there on the left was adobe CS4 which is worth way way more than what they offer. Instantly proves to me its all pirate stuff. Best test is compare prices on real sites. If its too good to be true, as the story goes......

The thing is you could just pirate it and it wouldn't cost you the little amount they want for the DVD with the crack on it. :P

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Originally posted by Beatflux The thing is you could just pirate it and it wouldn't cost you the little amount they want for the DVD with the crack on it. :P

Yeah thats what I said.

As a rule of thumb, I tend not to buy from any place with the word "biz" embedded in the name or URL.

That, and given that the site has the following characteristics:
(a) Ridiculously SEO-spammed ("cheap software download");
(b) Not secure (no SSL);
(c) Has a tag cloud;
(d) Actually has a testimonials page (which contains exactly 6 highly non-specific testimonials);
(e) Has no contact information whatsoever, just a "helpdesk" link which takes you to a completely different site...

I'd say that it's more than a little on the shady side and probably wouldn't trust them with my credit card number - or my lunch money. Or my e-mail address for that matter.

yeah same thoughts here tag cloud and biz lol.

Thanks Digi I still was a bit speculative of what other guys were saying (about it being pirated) because it said in the faq that you get the original serial number.

But that list def convinced me otherwise. Sounds a lot more sketchy then I had originally thought.

And stephen, one day I will pick up either an indigo or nord 2, but at this point in the game I don't have the money (I do I just cant make that sacrifice as of yet). And when I do finally get the money, it will prob take me another year just to decide between those 2.

Ah, well that sucks. All I know to say is save. You'll be very satisfied with hardware synths for so many reasons. One reason that I like to point out that I think is not talked about much is the CPU reduction. I can now make patches on my Virus TI that used to chew up 30% of my CPU. I also think the FX on the Virus are extremely underrated and don't understand why some say they suck. In particular the Chorus on it. It is the best I have heard. The analog boost is also extremely good in my opinion. The distortion is good, and the delay and reverb are nothing spectacular but they're solid enough to where you don't need to go buy a Lexicon or whatever.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Ah, well that sucks. All I know to say is save. You'll be very satisfied with hardware synths for so many reasons. One reason that I like to point out that I think is not talked about much is the CPU reduction. I can now make patches on my Virus TI that used to chew up 30% of my CPU. I also think the FX on the Virus are extremely underrated and don't understand why some say they suck. In particular the Chorus on it. It is the best I have heard. The analog boost is also extremely good in my opinion. The distortion is good, and the delay and reverb are nothing spectacular but they're solid enough to where you don't need to go buy a Lexicon or whatever.

I really think its a bit silly when people come out in favour of hardware this strongly mate. There are some great advantages, but it doesn't trounce software as hard as you're making out.

You did point out that if you buy second hand you can sell for the same price, and I guess thats a big advantage in some ways. Its definately better than the ubiquitous "but it just sounds better!" Still, software's an integral part of any studio (far more than hardware will ever be again) and this thread wasn't really about software vs hardware.

We should just sticky a thread and any time someone wants to rant about it they can go there. It'll leave the other threads uncluttered.

Maybe there should just be a "general rant" thread stickied up top, and people can get all their angst out in there.

Could be entertaining.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
I also think the FX on the Virus are extremely underrated /QUOTE]

The virus is one of the most popular and highly regarded synths on the market so how are the FX underrated?

The FX are what make the virus as the oscillators on their own are fairly weak compared to many other synths but with good use of the FX, the sounds are excellent

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Originally posted by kitphillips We should just sticky a thread and any time someone wants to rant about it they can go there. It'll leave the other threads uncluttered.

I think that there are more than enough old threads one can dig up for that purpose; having a sticky would only leave the impression that said rants are encouraged, which they are not.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with talking up one's latest acquisition. And there is also no legitimate reason why it needs to be turned into a generic rant against everything else on the market. Both actions convey roughly the same information, but the former generally doesn't piss people off in the process.

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