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Microchiping Citizens Included in Healthcare Bill


Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a �non-discussed� section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521� National Medical Device Registry, and which states the following:

��The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the �registry�) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that � ��(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ��(B) is � ��(i) a class III device; or ��(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining. ��(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary shall, in consultation with the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, and the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, determine the best methods for ���(A) including in the registry, in a manner consistent with subsection (f), appropriate information to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by type, model, and serial number or other unique identifier; ��(B) validating methods for analyzing patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and for linking such data with the information included in the registry as described in subparagraph (A), including, to the extent feasible, use of � ��(i) data provided to the Secretary under other provisions of this chapter; and ��(ii) information from public and private sources identified under paragraph (3); ��(C) integrating the activities described in this subsection with � ��(i) activities under paragraph (3) of section 505(k) (relating to active postmarket risk identification); ��(ii) activities under paragraph (4) of section 505(k) (relating to advanced analysis of drug safety data); and ��(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities of the Secretary authorized by this chapter; and ��(D) providing public access to the data and analysis collected or developed through the registry in a manner and form that protects patient privacy and proprietary information and is comprehensive, useful, and not misleading to patients, physicians, and scientists. ��(3)(A) To facilitate analyses of postmarket safety and patient outcomes for devices described in paragraph (1), the Secretary shall, in collaboration with public, academic, and private entities, develop methods to� ��(i) obtain access to disparate sources of patient safety and outcomes data, including � ��(I) Federal health-related electronic data (such as data from the Medicare program under title XVIII of the Social Security Act or from the health systems of the Department of Veterans Affairs); ��(II) private sector health-related electronic data (such as pharmaceutical purchase data and health insurance claims data); and ��(III) other data as the Secretary deems necessary to permit postmarket assessment of device safety and effectiveness; and ��(ii) link data obtained under clause (i) with information in the registry.

In �real world speak�, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn�t, allowed medical care in their country.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media...HCA09001xml.pdf

http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/100...t-score-empire/

My lord, microchiping citizens, killing grandma and introducing socialism...no wonder the bill is that thick if it contains all that.

Cool, I'm invested in BEAT, a company which has developed and managed a remote monitoring device which tracks a patient's vital signs from a central location. Have a heart attack, they know it before you do!

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Originally posted by Krypton Cool, I'm invested in BEAT, a company which has developed and managed a remote monitoring device which tracks a patient's vital signs from a central location. Have a heart attack, they know it before you do!

BEAT has been down 33% since I got it two months ago...can't wait for a comeback...well not really...I mean who wants a chip floating in their bodies? Also have they figured a way to let your body accept these chips? What if the battery dies in your chip?

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Originally posted by culorut In �real world speak�, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn�t, allowed medical care in their country.

whatever you say champ.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN whatever you say champ.

LOL, stupid decided to speak.

Thanks for the input idiot.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr BEAT has been down 33% since I got it two months ago...can't wait for a comeback...well not really...I mean who wants a chip floating in their bodies? Also have they figured a way to let your body accept these chips? What if the battery dies in your chip?

Yea, it's a risky pick. Not a very long track record, and some other things. Average fundamentals. What's makes it a blip on my radar is how low the price is historically.

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Originally posted by culorut LOL, stupid decided to speak. Thanks for the input idiot.

i know i should go easier on you considering you lack any formal education, but anyone with any shred of intelligence can understand that wall of text to mean that its about creating a registry of medical implants, and not a secret government plan to force every citizen to get chipped.

If you disagree, please quote the exact paragraph from the legislation that means this

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In �real world speak�, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn�t, allowed medical care in their country.

I mean, I know you�re woefully incapable of understanding any kind of technical language, which is why you rely on fallacious �real world speak� to interpret it for you, but we�re all living in hope one day you�ll surprise us with something insightful.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i know i should go easier on you considering you lack any formal education, but anyone with any shred of intelligence can understand that wall of text to mean that its about creating a registry of medical implants, and not a secret government plan to force every citizen to get chipped. If you disagree, please quote the exact paragraph from the legislation that means this I mean, I know you�re woefully incapable of understanding any kind of technical language, which is why you rely on fallacious �real world speak� to interpret it for you, but we�re all living in hope one day you�ll surprise us with something insightful.

I'm awaiting the mass deportation of 9/11 truthers to the FEMA camps.

Holy hermeneutics, Batman!

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Clearly the OP has no understanding of how to read a statute.

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In �real world speak�, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn�t, allowed medical care in their country.

Incorrect; the quoted section has absolutely nothing to do with microchipping anyone for any purpose...

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Originally posted by culorut ��The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the �registry�) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that � ��(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ��(B) is � ��(i) a class III device; or ��(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.

Quite plainly, the section states that this is to be a registry of all "life-supporting, or life-sustaining" devices that are implanted into a person. A microchip would neither be life supporting or sustaining... the bill coveres things like pacemakers, artificial heart valves, etc. Additionally, the purpose of the registry is to track the effectiveness of the device... which one presumes would be for the purpose of identifying which devices perform best.

There is no question the OP has misread the section or read in things that simply are not there. Interestingly, the OP also failled to read what actually is there...

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providing public access to the data and analysis collected or developed through the registry in a manner and form that protects patient privacy and proprietary information and is comprehensive, useful, and not misleading to patients, physicians, and scientists.

... which is to say that the data collected cannot be sufficient to identify the person in which the implant was installed.

It's fun to see how badly someone can misunderstand something because of their previously held conclusions.

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Clearly the OP has no understanding of how to read a statute.

Really? LOL

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Quite plainly, the section states that this is to be a registry of all "life-supporting, or life-sustaining" devices that are implanted into a person. A microchip would neither be life supporting or sustaining... the bill coveres things like pacemakers, artificial heart valves, etc. Additionally, the purpose of the registry is to track the effectiveness of the device... which one presumes would be for the purpose of identifying which devices perform best.

Incorrect, no where in the bill does it say pacemakers or artificial heart valves in all the 1000 somewhat pages. Find either one of the two mentioned directly and I will gladly surrender to your false accusations.

This is a very vague bill/framework to pass new technologies which already do exist under the public's eyes, hence why this particular info was in the "non-discussed" section. How you think data cannot sustain life which is stored in an implanted RFID is seriously laughable. Information is the key to everything, they are going to get rid of paper records and replace them within a chip which they will be able to scan from you directly.

The bill clearly states one thing very well, IMPLANTABLE. What they fail to disclose is what "devices" fall under this (their) category.

It's only the start but it is coming indefinitely. They are laying the foundation now so that when RFID's come into full swing they will not have to write another bill. Seriously, learn to read in between the lines a little.

VERICHIP




Health Link is the connection between you and your personal health record. Health Link utilizes a tiny, passive microchip (the nation�s first and only microchip cleared for patient identification by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration) and a secure, private online database that links you to your personal health record. Your Health Link is always with you and cannot be lost or stolen. It provides emergency room doctors and nurses with your vital medical and emergency contact information, allowing them to treat you rapidly, accurately and safely during an emergency.

The Health Link microchip

What you need to know about Health Link:

� Health Link allows ER doctors and nurses immediate access to your personal health record and emergency contact information during an emergency.

� ER doctors and nurses use Health Link as a tool to help treat you rapidly, accurately and safely based on your current medical information.

� Your personal medical and emergency contact information is easily updated through Health Link�s secure, online database.

www.HealthLinkInfo.com

About the size of a grain of rice, the microchip is inserted just under the skin and contains only a unique, 16-digit identifier. The microchip itself does not contain any other data other than this unique electronic ID, nor does it contain any Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities. And unlike conventional forms of identification, the Health Link cannot be lost, stolen, misplaced, or counterfeited. It is safe, secure, reversible, and always with you.


http://www.verichipcorp.com/Veri_Med_Health_Link.html

They're already tracking you through the computer you're using, and I seriously doubt you leave yours, so what's the difference?

Health Link Technology



Yes, it shows your Health Link chip linked to Google, Microsoft, employers and insurers. The company also sees the VeriMed Health Link linked to your �identity security services,� through a separate VeriChip product, PositiveID.


Positive ID

The Business

- Business Synergies: convergence of personal health records and identity security services

- PositiveID protects your critical data through security, accessibility and monitoring

We offer:

- Health Link �robust, web-based, patient-centric personal health record

- Identity security services through NationalCreditReport.com�credit monitoring and reporting

- Signed up 15,000 subscribers in first six months of marketing

- Joins a well capitalized Nasdaqcompany with a growing identity security business

Benefits:

- Improved health care
- Identity theft protection
- We give you 24/7 peace of mind

http://i.bnet.com/blogs/positive_id...ector-perfector

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On They're already tracking you through the computer you're using, and I seriously doubt you leave yours, so what's the difference?

You fail to see the difference between IP tracking and transmitting all of your personal data. Apples and oranges.

HUGE difference.

Seems very "life sustaining" in their eyes. I know though, it must not be true because it's posted on youtube!


VERICHIP RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT, 100% PROOF IT IS HERE

So in a world where something as harmless as a fucking flu vaccine can create resounding controversy, you really think they're going to be lining people up to surgically implant things into them in the near future? I'm all for vigilance or liberty or some bullshit like that - because it tends to benefit me most immediately - but get real for once. Dystopia interests me as well, but people like you give skepticism a bad name. I don't even know why I am typing this, you probably think I work for the government or will at least compromise me out to be a grossly uninformed citizen - you know, just like everyone but yourself.

Motherfuker, this TV AD from Verichip/Healthlink gives me the creeps.

Every last person looks like a brainwashed zombie in their commercial.

Unfukingbelievable.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On So in a world where something as harmless as a fucking flu vaccine can create resounding controversy, you really think they're going to be lining people up to surgically implant things into them in the near future? I'm all for vigilance or liberty or some bullshit like that - because it tends to benefit me most immediately - but get real for once. Dystopia interests me as well, but people like you give skepticism a bad name. I don't even know why I am typing this, you probably think I work for the government or will at least compromise me out to be a grossly uninformed citizen - you know, just like everyone but yourself.

You really should not use harmless and flu vaccine in the same sentence especially since it has proven to do absolutely fuk all in preventing anyone from contracting H1N1.

If colorut is right, buy the stock. Take part in the conspiracy before it's too late! If you work for the man, you'll be less likely to end up in one of those FEMA concentration camps.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=chip

Why is it so entertaining to see the chronically paranoid justify their delusions with misinterpretation and skewed information? I guess it's why I have a sick fascination with far-right TV and radio.

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Originally posted by culorut Incorrect, no where in the bill does it say pacemakers or artificial heart valves in all the 1000 somewhat pages. Find either one of the two mentioned directly and I will gladly surrender to your false accusations. This is a very vague bill/framework to pass new technologies which already do exist under the public's eyes, hence why this particular info was in the "non-discussed" section. How you think data cannot sustain life which is stored in an implanted RFID is seriously laughable. Information is the key to everything, they are going to get rid of paper records and replace them within a chip which they will be able to scan from you directly. The bill clearly states one thing very well, IMPLANTABLE. What they fail to disclose is what "devices" fall under this (their) category. It's only the start but it is coming indefinitely. They are laying the foundation now so that when RFID's come into full swing they will not have to write another bill. Seriously, learn to read in between the lines a little.

lols, I love how language has no real meaning for him. �nowhere does it say pacemaker� therefore �life-sustaining device� can�t possibly mean things like pacemakers, but then suddenly we can�t �read between the lines� to find the true meaning of the bill, yet nowhere does it mention forcing people to get chipped, but that�s obviously what it means!

so essentially cretinrot can interpret that document to mean just about anything!!

His ability for self delusion is pretty damned impressive!

Dude, culorut, are you some kind of wide-eyed creep who sits in his parents dark basement scouring through piles of documents muttering endlessly to himself about how the government is trying to implement mind-control devices to the entire population?

Don't forget your tin-foil hat next time.

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