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Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-17-2009 22:13:

The gouging continues. TTC fare hike passes!

Just happened moments ago... its not even on the web yet. BTW apparently the HST will make the pass go up 8% next July as well. Gotta love this place!


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-17-2009 22:18:

quote:
The TTC has approved a 25-cent fare hike today but softened the blow for post-secondary students.

"I really regret the 25 cents," TTC deputy chairman and city councillor Joe Mihevc said shortly before the vote.

"We know some people can't afford it and if there was another way we would have chosen it."

The changes would come into effect in January and are designed to plug a significant hole in the TTC's $100 million operating budget deficit.

It won't close that hole completely though and the TTC will have to go before city council for the remainder.

Before the vote, councillors listened to a parade of student representatives who argued for post-secondary students to get a break on transit costs.

The TTC's student rate had been limited to high school pupils but commissioners voted to extend that to all post-secondary students regardless of age or the extent of their course load, starting next September.

"This is the best way forward," TTC chairman Adam Giambrone said.

Here's what the TTC fare hike would mean to you.

ADULT FARE

- Cash: $2.75 to $3.00

- Token: $2.25 to $2.50

- Weekly Pass: $32.25 to $36.00

- Regular Metropass: $109.00 to $126.00

- VIP: $96.00 to $111.00

- MDP: $100.00 to $116.00

SENIOR/STUDENT FARE

- Cash: $1.85 to $2.00

- Ticket: $1.50 to $1.65

- Weekly Pass: $25.50 to $28.00

- Regular Metropass: $91.25 to $104.00

- MDP: $84.00 to $95.00

CHILD FARE

- Cash: $0.70 to $0.75

- Ticket: $0.50 to $0.55

- Day Pass: $9.00 to $10.00

- GTA Pass (TTC portion): $25.30 to $29.25

Here's what transit riders pay for a single cash fare around the world:

- Toronto $2.75

- New York $2.25

- Paris $2.52

- Vancouver $2.50 to $5

- Montreal $2.75

Monthly passes across Canada

- Toronto $109 ($100 per month with discount plan where you buy 12 for the year)

- Vancouver $73 to $136

- Montreal $68.50


Posted by chinamon on Nov-17-2009 22:18:

fuck public transit.
i own a car.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-17-2009 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
fuck public transit.
i own a car.


exactly...


Posted by Skipper on Nov-17-2009 22:29:

Yeah, brutal.

Why is the metropass going up 16% but the single fares are only going up 9%?


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-17-2009 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Yeah, brutal.

Why is the metropass going up 16% but the single fares are only going up 9%?


its about as confusing to me as to why people keep voting in left wing socialist unionist governments that allow this?


Posted by dgame on Nov-17-2009 22:36:

I can't believe our fares are higher than New York


Posted by Skipper on Nov-17-2009 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
its about as confusing to me as to why people keep voting in left wing socialist unionist governments that allow this?


k, enough with the political sensationalism with every post.

I swear, I could tell you my dog died and you'd blame it on the liberal government.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-17-2009 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
k, enough with the political sensationalism with every post.

I swear, I could tell you my dog died and you'd blame it on the liberal government.


i just call it as i see it! The governments that torontonians vote for and the ideology that goes with it is directly to blame for this hike.

If your dog died the liberals would blame it on poverty second hand smoke, and air pollution LOL!!! even if none of those things are the cause!!


LOL!! just kidding


Posted by Dior Homme on Nov-17-2009 23:52:

I might as well buy that parking spot by my school... Makes much more sense starting January...


Posted by Dior Homme on Nov-17-2009 23:52:

I might as well buy that parking spot by my school... Makes much more sense starting January...


Posted by devnull on Nov-17-2009 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by dgame
I can't believe our fares are higher than New York


sad! and at least with the NY one, u can actually travel 30km for that price....TTC's network is ..... limited!


Posted by Dior Homme on Nov-18-2009 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
sad! and at least with the NY one, u can actually travel 30km for that price....TTC's network is ..... limited!


You can travel 30km with TTC.... location dependent of course.


Posted by Abercrombie on Nov-18-2009 03:34:

It's cheaper to buy tokens if you use the TTC to commute to work and back 5 days a week, than to get a metropass. Go figure...


Posted by E2EK1EL on Nov-18-2009 04:05:

I take the TTC once or twice a month when the car is in the shop for emergency repairs ... No matter what, this sucks for everyone in Toronto.

That lame ass protest was gay, some should make a proper protest at the TTC head office and the garages to show how really pissed ppl are.


Posted by DeleteFromUsers on Nov-18-2009 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
sad! and at least with the NY one, u can actually travel 30km for that price....TTC's network is ..... limited!


TTC subway total length: 68.3km across 4 lines.
MTA (NYC) subway total length (passenger service): 1062km across 26 routes.


Posted by cono_sur on Nov-18-2009 04:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
It's cheaper to buy tokens if you use the TTC to commute to work and back 5 days a week, than to get a metropass. Go figure...


I did a calculation on this as well. It's beyond me why this is the case. LAME! I will stick to buying tokens - it's just not worth it.

I recall an article a few moons ago, where it stated that the TTC recovered their costs more (because of high fares) than any other public transit system on Earth..... makes you wonder how the other public transit systems deal with the realities.


Posted by dEsidEL on Nov-18-2009 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by cono_sur
I recall an article a few moons ago, where it stated that the TTC recovered their costs more (because of high fares) than any other public transit system on Earth..... makes you wonder how the other public transit systems deal with the realities.



they receive bigger government subsidies and find more creative ways to raise funds rather than always resorting to the black and white fare hikes vs. service cuts


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-18-2009 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

they receive bigger government subsidies and find more creative ways to raise funds rather than always resorting to the black and white fare hikes vs. service cuts


not to mention automation and lower salaries.

We are still operating on a 1950s/60s model with year 2030 wages!


Posted by Skipper on Nov-18-2009 12:12:

I know passes are more expensive, but I will honestly pay just to not have to dig for a freaking token every time. Plus on most days I take the ttc more than twice, so it's super convenient.

OK, enough positivity, back to griping.
$126, wtf.


Posted by daves on Nov-18-2009 14:05:

Small consolation, but apparently the metropass is increasing to $121, not the originally proposed $126.


Posted by English Rachel on Nov-18-2009 14:20:

I just stood for 30 minutes while 4 full streetcars went by. it took me 50 minutes to do a 4km journey, one I could have walked faster.

Needless to say, I am not in the best of moods right now.


Posted by Orko on Nov-18-2009 16:15:

Why is NYC's system better than ours?

quote:
While the TTC provides the most rides per capita in North America, it raises significantly more revenue through the fare box than others. New York's transit system gets a $1.71 subsidy per ride compared to 59 cents per TTC ride.


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...e-hike-approved


Posted by Sentinal on Nov-18-2009 17:37:

In all honesty if feel bad for the seniors more than anything else. They a limited income and and even more limited means of attaing additional income. With all these fare hikes and new taxs I hoestly wonder how some of them can even live.


Posted by Orko on Nov-18-2009 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sentinal
In all honesty if feel bad for the seniors more than anything else. They a limited income and and even more limited means of attaing additional income. With all these fare hikes and new taxs I hoestly wonder how some of them can even live.


Well they are a huge burden on the health care system. Maybe this is the government's way of showing them the door?


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