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Two weeks ago I watched a movie called Food inc and it got me obsessed over this GMO stuff. If you don't know wtf I'm talking about go watch Food inc and the world according to Monsanto. For anyone who does know what I'm talking about, what do you think? Most of Europe has forced the food companies to label them or ban them altogether. That leaves Canadians and Americans to be the guinea pigs for this stuff. For some reason we keep loosing everytime we try and pass the law which would force the companies to label GMO's.

holy shit what is up with all of these food threads these days

You've eaten GM tomatoes since the fucking 80s and nothing has gone wrong. Stop with the doomsday bullshit already.

im 6 foot 4 and i see 13 year olds taller than me.

steroids in milk is bad for ya.

for the record hormones, pesticides, antibiotics != genetically modified food

there's nothing wrong with gmo in fact the world needs gmo staple foods to approach anything resembling sustainability. crop failures, spoilage and low yields mean famine and starvation in many parts of the world. altering a gene that increases starch content, resists beetles or allows a plant to survive heat and drought better addresses those problems.

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Originally posted by ******** fact is the government supports the stuff cause it means 'healthier foods' they pump foods full of artificial junk to make it "healthy" enough to eat.. so why not save time and grow the healthy into it.. increase yields, bring down prices, and make the food more accessable.

What? They don't pump anything into it. They do exactly what you just suggested hence the words "genetically modified".
They can also selectively breed to eliminate unfavourable plants.

GM foods are far less harmful than foods with a tonne of pesticides on them.

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Originally posted by Fledz You've eaten GM tomatoes since the fucking 80s and nothing has gone wrong. Stop with the doomsday bullshit already.

No sorry, they came on the market in 1994 and dissapeared around 1998 due to commercial failure. You have lost all your credibility, GTFO.

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Originally posted by ******** Pumping stuff into it.. oh they do... 1st in the growth stage - different chemicals like nitrogen and other sprays and mists.. pesticides, and other pharmaceuticals (mostly derived from oil) which makes the soil "dead" and it is all picked up by the plants. 2nd in the processing stage groups like the FDA have set minimum nutrient levels so things like flour and pasta have artificial vitamins added to them (these artificial vitamins arn't identical to "naturally occuring vitamins" but are synthetic equivolents.. there have been some arguments these synthetic vitamins can have adervse health effects. 3rd even afterwords when lots of foods are packaged, additives including health hazards and toxins like EDTA are pumped into the foods, these are often damaging to homeostaic operations of the body and in some cases can be carcinogens or damaging to organs (but in the low daily dosages arn't deemed hazards by the FDA - but with long term exposure such as that to bad tap water the health effects will show themselves. This isn't as simple as flouride (a toxic substance) in the water supply slowly killing tap water drinkers.. or large amounts of estrogen in the water supply changing hormone balances (of people such as males) causing hormonal imbalances, but much more overt and generalized - does it do the job... will they notice the effects if it is yes and no.. then it might be used.. but whatis the real effect? DO note without the first stage 80+% of agriculatural fields would be unable to produce foodstuffs.. due to destruction of the natural soil characteristics which allow plant growth. THis is one of the scary parts of oil dependency.. without oil we loose our food supply..

you're talking about fertilizers, pesticides, antibiotics, and then additives in processed foods. 404 gmo not found.

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Originally posted by R!CH for the record hormones, pesticides, antibiotics != genetically modified food

Where did you find this information? I'm pretty sure genetically modified means changing genes of a plant and thats about it. Unless adding pesticides and antibiotics changes genes?

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht No sorry, they came on the market in 1994 and dissapeared around 1998 due to commercial failure. You have lost all your credibility, GTFO.

Eh close enough, trials of them were in the late 80s iirc.
Like you said they weren't pulled due to being unsafe, they were pulled due to commerical failure (which could be a number of things). They were never shown to be detrimental to health and we continue to still have many GM foods available on the market. I agree there needs to be more studies on it though.

I'm all for labelling food as I believe we need all the information, but the reaction to GM foods is the same as to pharmaceutical products when they first became wide spread. GM food has a tonne of potential in medicine as well.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht Where did you find this information? I'm pretty sure genetically modified means changing genes of a plant and thats about it. Unless adding pesticides and antibiotics changes genes?

no they don't change genes, that was my point. people confuse gmo with the shit that's really bad for you, which is all the other stuff (pesticides, antibiotics, etc). gmo is flicking certain genes on or off to allow the same acre of land to produce 25% more calories or use 15% less water. organic foods do taste better, but that's a luxury a lot of hungry and malnourished people don't have.

Life should not be patented. That's my opinion. Monsanto should not be allowed to sue farmers who through no fault of their own, inadvertently get GMO seeds blown by the wind into their fields.

Alright well we can atleast agree there needs to be more studies on it. From what ive read the FDA has decided that there doesn't need to be extensive tests done because the GMO food is "substantially equivalent" to its natural counterpart. This substantially equivalence stuff is a bunch of bullshit according to a lot of people.

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Originally posted by R!CH organic foods do taste better, but that's a luxury a lot of hungry and malnourished people don't have.

Corporations like Monsanto use these "Feed The World" tactics to promote there foods across the world, $$$ For Corporations. There is already enough food to feed the world, the problems lie elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Krypton Life should not be patented. That's my opinion. Monsanto should not be allowed to sue farmers who through no fault of their own, inadvertently get GMO seeds blown by the wind into their fields.

Here is a nice quote about how much of a joke this patent thing is.

�The reason nothing is being done is the substantial equivalence doctrine. A phony doctrine designed for the bio-corporate pirates to use in order to bypass inspection and independent tracking of their abominations. This is in direct opposition to the patent scam, in which they must show substantial difference to obtain the patent.

So on the one hand, GMOs are substantially equivalent for the purposes of marketing and spreading the filth around, yet substantially different for the purposes of controlling where their abominations land in the food supply. They have it both ways courtesy of the U.S. government puppets.� (end quote)

I see no problem with it and I have heard of no evidence that supports the irrational fear of GM food. There is an issue of cross-pollination of course, which is a concern to people who wish to grow GM-free produce, but I find the doomsday hippies to far less compelling than things like famine for instance.

I mean, have any of you fear mongers got an example you�d like to share of GM food causing significant harm to the consumer?

otherwise, fuck off. nothing worse than an ill-informed hippy.

i can deal with taller kids, but if their cocks are bigger imma gm em in the ass like gangbustas

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I see no problem with it and I have heard of no evidence that supports the irrational fear of GM food. There is an issue of cross-pollination of course, which is a concern to people who wish to grow GM-free produce, but I find the doomsday hippies to far less compelling than things like famine for instance. I mean, have any of you fear mongers got an example you�d like to share of GM food causing significant harm to the consumer? otherwise, fuck off. nothing worse than an ill-informed hippy.

Allergenicity for one

By the way ive been waiting for you

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Originally posted by Schadenfreude i can deal with taller kids, but if their cocks are bigger imma gm em in the ass like gangbustas

You should genetically modify your cock with shopping mall genes. Te girls will be all over you.

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Originally posted by Schadenfreude i can deal with taller kids, but if their cocks are bigger imma gm em in the ass like gangbustas

just inject your penis with saline


gets the job done

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht Allergenicity for one By the way ive been waiting for you

im always here to please the henny penny's of TA.

now, could you expand on the issue? i am unfamiliar with the term allergenicity, thought obviously its related to allergens from cross-genetic biotech foods.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im always here to please the henny penny's of TA. now, could you expand on the issue? i am unfamiliar with the term allergenicity, thought obviously its related to allergens from cross-genetic biotech foods.

You expand on Henny Penny! Wtf is a henny penny?

http://www.responsibletechnology.or...rgies/index.cfm

That link has some information that could maybe do a bit of convincing.

Thought of one more thing before bed. The reason why you don't see the news about health effects of GMO's on humans is because there are no studies. It can potentially be increasing our risks to all kinds of diseases but there is nobody keeping track of GMO foods because the substantially equivalent bullshit. Can't exactly put a human in a room and feed him GMO food for 10 years can we?

Tomacco.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit just inject your penis with saline gets the job done

so you admit to having to modify a small cock karim?

you are the wrong kind of brown then

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht You expand on Henny Penny! Wtf is a henny penny? http://www.responsibletechnology.or...rgies/index.cfm That link has some information that could maybe do a bit of convincing. Thought of one more thing before bed. The reason why you don't see the news about health effects of GMO's on humans is because there are no studies. It can potentially be increasing our risks to all kinds of diseases but there is nobody keeping track of GMO foods because the substantially equivalent bullshit. Can't exactly put a human in a room and feed him GMO food for 10 years can we?

That�s an interesting link. I obviously lack the requisite knowledge and experience to challenge anything written there. However I did see one potential issue. If the examples used were an accurate representation of the potential harm of GM crops, why hasn�t there been an equivalent amount of harm recognised at the consumer level?

Surely if there is a parallel between this

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In addition to immune responses, several studies and reports from the field provide evidence that GM foods are toxic. In the next article in this series, we look at thousands of sick, sterile and dead animals, linked to consumption of GM crops

and the threat posed through human consumption, we would have a fair amount of evidence which he should also cite? Why are these foods posing such a risk, yet millions of people use such products daily with no noticeable impact?

Additionally,

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A 2005 report by medical investigators in India describes an ominous finding. Hundreds of agricultural workers are developing moderate or severe allergic reactions when exposed to Bt cotton. This includes those picking cotton, loading it, cleaning it, or even leaning against it. Some at a ginning factory must take antihistamines daily, in order to go to work. Reactions are only triggered with the Bt varieties.[24] Furthermore, the symptoms are virtually identical to those described by the 500 people in Vancouver and Washington who were sprayed with Bt.

If this is a cause for concern, why aren�t I breaking out in hives when I put on a tshirt? If Bt is such an issue for those merely leaning up against GM cotton, why haven�t we noticed correspondingly serious results when people consume foods containing Bt?

I just think that were the dangers so great and so obvious, more data should be available providing at the very least, a correlation between Bt in food and serious human health issues.

I do have to commend you on a much more robust link than anything you have previous sourced however. There�s hope for you yet

Oh, and �henny penny� is a character from a story that was always complaining that the sky was falling.

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